Body Scanners operational in BNE from tonight for International Flights.

[markis10]

PASSENGERS flying out of Brisbane International Airport may be denied entry to a flight if they refuse to pass through new body scanners. The technology will come online at the international terminal from Tuesday night, with passengers to be asked at random to undergo a body scan.

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[kpc]

PASSENGERS flying out of Brisbane International Airport may be denied entry to a flight if they refuse to pass through new body scanners. The technology will come online at the international terminal from Tuesday night, with passengers to be asked at random to undergo a body scan.

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I'll be choosing the option below each and every time:

However she said passengers would have the option of undergoing three alternative security checks, including a metal detector scan, body frisk and explosives test.

 

[Ewing]

Given that the explosives test from international also comes with a bonus frisk, and that I get "picked" around 90% of the time I will also decline the scanner.

After all, it simply means my flying experience will be per normal

 

[simongr]

So passengers wont be denied travel if they accept the alternative? So the article lead in (not the thread title) is completely misleading.

 

[boylero]

disgusted our Muppet government has bowed to the master again. boycott the technology, it will be made redundant

 

[jetlagger]

disgusted our Muppet government has bowed to the master again. boycott the technology, it will be made redundant

The whole country seems way over governed with little &/or misguided direction. :evil:

Back to topic! Hope it speeds up the security process during busy times in BNE.

 

[medhead]

Does this story really warrant a separate thread given the other recent story about the introduction of these scanners that was reported here in the last week or 2. Newsflash they are introducing these scanners everywhere in Australia, do we need a new thread as each airport gets them?

As for following our "master" we actually haven't followed their technological lead.

 

[The Rok]

I'll happily go through them. Free x-ray. Woo hoo.


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[markis10]

Does this story really warrant a separate thread given the other recent story about the introduction of these scanners that was reported here in the last week or 2. Newsflash they are introducing these scanners everywhere in Australia, do we need a new thread as each airport gets them?

As for following our "master" we actually haven't followed their technological lead.

If they were being introduced all at the same time no, but as it varies by airport it does not hurt to make people aware, so they can be prepared for the experience with upcoming travels, and as each airport has different standards for them re right of refusal etc, somewhat pertinent.

 

[MarcB]

This post on the QF Agents site indicates that you can not opt out.

There are some exemptions for people with serious medical conditions, infants and small children, and persons in wheelchairs; however a passenger cannot choose to opt out of the process. Passengers who refuse to comply will not be permitted to board a flight for a period of 24 hours.


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[lovestotravel]

disgusted our Muppet government has bowed to the master again. boycott the technology, it will be made redundant

Can you please let me know when these are made redundant ?

Thanks

 

[serfty]

Here's a snippet of text from that article in the OP:

Anyone who refuses to be scanned without a valid medical or physical condition, would not be allowed to board their flight, Ms Vandeven said.


However she said passengers would have the option of undergoing three alternative security checks, including a metal detector scan, body frisk and explosives test.

That to me is contradictory, especially with the use of the word "option" - unless there's more to "passengers" than is written.

No, the article is has been poorly written/edited.

Airport Body Scanners—Frequently Asked Questions

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Screening process

How will people be selected for a body scan?

Any person may be selected to undergo a body scan on a random basis. Selection will not be based on race, age or religion.

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Why a no opt-out policy?

Body scanning technology can identify a variety of sophisticated threats that cannot be detected by existing screening technology. Walk through metal detectors and the style of frisk search currently used at Australian airports simply cannot provide the same security outcome a body scanner can.
The only method of screening that could provide a similar security outcome to that of a body scanner is the type of invasive full body frisk search conducted overseas. The Government has been resolute in not introducing such searches as part of our airport security arrangements. For this reason and in the interests of security and privacy, passengers selected for body scanner screening cannot choose inferior or significantly intrusive alternatives. Accordingly, the Government has decided a no opt-out policy will be enforced in relation to screening at airports.

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What if I refuse a body scan?

If a person refuses to undergo a body scan, and they have no medical or physical condition which prevents them for undertaking a body scan, they will be refused clearance and not allowed to pass through the screening point. They therefore will not be allowed to board their aircraft. This policy not only applies to passengers, but also to pilots, other aircrew, government officers and airport staff.

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What if I can't go through the body scanner due to health issues?

The Government understands some people will be unable to undergo a body scan for a variety of reasons. In order to undergo a body scan, a person must be able to stand upright and still for several seconds with their hands above their head.
Persons with medical or physical conditions that prevent them from undertaking a body scan will be offered alternative screening methods suitable to their circumstances. These alternative screening methods will consist of those already used at Australia’s aviation security screening points.

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[markis10]

Here's a snippet of text from that article in the OP:
That to me is contradictory, especially with the use of the word "option" - unless there's more to "passengers" than is written.

No, the article is has been poorly written/edited.

Airport Body Scanners—Frequently Asked Questions

I think the option was referred in the context of passengers who have a valid reason not to do the scanner!

Brisbane Airport Corporation - Body Scanning to commence at BNE

 

[serfty]

Also, it will slow one down a lot more than previously:

... all items need to be removed from a passenger’s pockets including wallets, mobile phones, tissues and boarding passes ...

 

[MarcB]

My only question is whether the personnel behind the scenes will be subjected to basic criminal checks and video monitoring to "protect our skies". I naively thought that my locked, checked baggage was safe until a recent theft of our DSLR from our bag between LAX and JFK. Call me stupid if you will, but I really never contemplated that such an act of theft could occur when the baggage was in the control of airline representatives. The fact that both our insurer and the carrier (QF in this case) have exclusions in their policies specifically excluding any claims for theft in these circumstances, suggests to me it's a more common problem than they'd like to admit.

I can handle the loss of the camera, but (and not to generalise as I am sure it's a minority) it does concern me that at least some of the people with access to very secure areas of our aviation systems are criminals (petty or otherwise) - is it really that much of a stretch to think someone more sinister could infiltrate?

IMHO it really makes the whole idea of the screening we all have to endure as a travelling public quite ridiculous.

 

[lovestotravel]

Why a high-end camera would go in checked luggage is beyond me, but you did give us the option to call you stupid!

Your point is anyone can be tempted by theft, for so many reasons. They may pass a criminal check on application but that doesn't make them "safe for life"

 

[EmilyHoward]

Persons with medical or physical conditions that prevent them from undertaking a body scan will be offered alternative screening methods suitable to their circumstances. These alternative screening methods will consist of those already used at Australia’s aviation security screening points.

Watch out ! The new danger may be people who shake all over, can't put their arms in the air or have no legs!

EH

 

[MarcB]

Why a high-end camera would go in checked luggage is beyond me, but you did give us the option to call you stupid!

Your point is anyone can be tempted by theft, for so many reasons. They may pass a criminal check on application but that doesn't make them "safe for life"

It was an $1800 camera new a few years ago - not what I'd call "high end" - and worth far less than that now. Irrespective of whether it's $5 or $5000, it's unacceptable that any kind of theft should be occurring within the confines of a "secure" environment like an airport. To get goods stolen in this way out of those areas suggests a quite sophisticated operation involving many people - and significant breakdowns in the security protocols and systems. My point is that this makes a mockery of the screening processes that pax are subjected to.

 

[EmilyHoward]

However she said passengers would have the option of undergoing three alternative security checks, including a metal detector scan, body frisk and explosives test.





Well I will be going for the body frisk if there is a nice young man to do it!

EH

 

[samh004]

I might ask if I can do the scan, seeing as I've never done one and if someone wants to look at my junk, so be it