Umbrellas must be scanned seperately

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Umbrellas "with metal points", along with nail files/clippers, Knitting Needles, Corkscrews and Rackets(??), were removed from the prohibited items list in December 2009. (Prohibited items)

Umbrellas are no longer listed.

Aerosols cans are still listed as prohibited, cap or no cap on the government site. I guess there is some discretion being used by the airlines (e.g. QF: Qantas - Dangerous Goods).

As for the Government site:
 
Can and cap ended up in the bin at the security check point, so unless there was more to it.:confused::shock:
I guess more about the varying standards from airport to airport.
 
Qantas and Virgin Blue permit the following as part of carry on

Non-radioactive medicinal or toilet articles (including aerosols) such as hair sprays, perfumes, colognes and medicines containing alcohol.
The total net quantity of all above mentioned articles must not exceed 2 kg (4.4 lb) or 2 L (2 qt), and the net quantity of each single article must not exceed 0.5 kg (1 lb) or 0.5 L (1 pt). Release valves on aerosols must be protected by a cap or other suitable means to prevent inadvertent release of the contents.

For Qantas refer Fly - Baggage - Dangerous Goods

For Virgin Blue refer: Virgin Blue Dangerous Goods

or http://www.vaustralia.com.au/cms/groups/groundoperations/documents/internetcontent/p_007376.pdf


or go straight to the IATA table
http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/cargo/dangerous_goods/Documents/DGR52_Table23A.pdf
 
Can and cap ended up in the bin at the security check point, so unless there was more to it.:confused::shock:
I guess more about the varying standards from airport to airport.

Perhaps there was more to it, or just a different screener with different ideas, 'cos I dragged 2 x aerosol (with caps :)), unbidden, out of my carry-on and into a tray at BNE a few weeks ago!

As noted, the only consistent thing is the inconsistency. :shock:
 
mrsdoc always has aerosol seperately scanned (ie. out of bag). She's never had to dispose of it.

She conveniently puts it in the little plastic tray with the umbrella. :rolleyes:
 
Was travelling with a friend from Montreal back home. He flew to Amsterdam me to London. We had bought identical umbrella's in Montreal and I could take mine on board and his was sticky-taped to the outside of his suitcase :shock: Ofcourse his was totally wrecked when we met again in Brussels. Never understood the logic in that one...
 
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Just to add my bit to the inconsistency of the different airports.

Checked into melb domestic for my weekly flight to Sydney for work. As I work in IT, I always carry a screwdriver with me, so I can open up desktops, laptops, etc.... First time I did this, melb security didn't even blink an eye and let me through. On the return leg back, at Sydney security, they pulled up the screwdriver and said it was prohibited. I was in a hurry, so said fine, whatever, dump it.

So, I figured for the next time, I'll be a bit smarter. I also have a ratchet screwdriver, and not wanting to lose it, on the first trip, all I took along was a couple of the screwdriver heads. Went through fine, but of course screwdriver heads are next to useless without the ratchet driver.

Next trip, I brought the ratchet driver handle along with me from Melb, and again, melb security didn't make a fuss, let it through. And why should they, its just a short stubby handle by itself, about as dangerous as a cough!

On the return trip from Sydney, at security, they pulled me up again, and had a look at the handle, and asked what it was. Told them it was the handle from a ratchet screwdriver, and as is seen, there was nothing sharp about it. Then they said, it wasn't allowed as it was a "tool".... I asked for a supervisor, and after a few mins, a supervisor was brought along and again confirmed that it was prohibited. When I questioned why, all they said was that all "tools" are prohibited. Tried to tell them that the handle was obviously not dangerous, etc...but they wouldn't hear of it. Ended up telling them to just dump it then as i was late for my flight and didn't want to argue anymore.

Got annoyed by this so I looked it up later with regards to dangerous goods not allowed on airplanes, and all I could find was references to SHARP tools not being allowed, which is fair enough, I wouldn't want someone with a sharp stanley knife or boxcutters around. But cmon, exercise a bit of common sense and judgement when it comes to this stuff!

But just goes to show that they have different standards/training at the different airports. Never had problem with melb security but syd security always pulled me up on it.

Edit: here's what I found on the Qantas website: "All knives, sharp objects or cutting and stabbing implements need to be packed in checked baggage and not placed in carry-on baggage or on your person."

All well and good in these times, but these coughs at security need a lesson in english comprehension if they understood that to include my handle as being dangerous.
 
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On the subject of inconsistency, why is SYD domestic the only airport I've travelled through where my R M Williams boots set off the scanner? It doesn't happen at SYD international, MEL, BNE, ADL, PER, AKL, HKG, SIN, all airports through which I travel regularly, and there are many more where I've had no problem. Are RM's deemed to be some special threat at SYD domestic?
 
Just to add my bit to the inconsistency of the different airports.

Got annoyed by this so I looked it up later with regards to dangerous goods not allowed on airplanes, and all I could find was references to SHARP tools not being allowed, which is fair enough,
There is a significant difference between what is defined under the Dangerous Goods Regulations and what is allowed through security. They overlap but are quite different.
 
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I got through BNE (JQ security checkpoint) with an umbrella in my bag last night without being pulled up... perhaps they were too distracted by my carry-on luggage, work case, laptop, RM boots (with metal stays) and aerosols, to notice it!

Mind you, I've been through CNS, OOL and BNE many times in the last few months and it hasn't ever been pulled up. It's one of those very small fold up ones.

Aerosols: mostly I put them into the tray: they pick them up, make sure a cap is on them or locked (Rexona brand) and then scan them.

My bug-bear in the last 6 months has been the new "Checkpoint Friendly" "Scanfast" laptop bags. The new design is approved by the TSA in US, but don't know if anyone knows about it in Australia. With my new DELL/Alienware backpack, you can lay the laptop-holding section out flat so that the laptop is not covered by other cables etc (refer to the TSA guidelines, or google "Checkpoint friendly" to read more), but so many security personnel would still ask me to take the laptop out... even though it has "Check Point Friendly" printed in large letters across the case.

I've given up and just pull the laptop out to save the frustration.
 
Going through BNE yesterday we were asked if any umbrellas.
Sure is frustrating the lack of consistency.
 
Going through BNE yesterday we were asked if any umbrellas.
Sure is frustrating the lack of consistency.

Weirdly consistent for me in LOTFAP last week, travelled with small umbrella and long pointed tweezers packed in carry-on and not stopped once ;)
 
Going through BNE yesterday we were asked if any umbrellas.
Sure is frustrating the lack of consistency.

I always carry an umbrella in carry on. Only in BNE have I ever been asked to remove it. Never in SYD or anywhere else. But not on all occasions in BNE.
 
My second newbie question for the day. Is there any (public) explanation for whay the security people same to change the calibration or sensitivity of their machines from one day to the next? Nearly always my belt gets through without setting of an alarm, but 1 time in 10 the alarm goes off. Same terminal. Ditto my slip-on shoes. Is there any justification for this? Or anything that can be done? This is not the USA. But - if they are going to have 'heightened security' (i.e., ratchet up the sensitivity of the machines) is there any valid reason they can't just make it consistent?

And can someone tell the security people at Ballina airport to cool it? Ballina is not the terrorist capital of the world, last I heard!
 
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