New Chinese Aircraft... who's game?

[UP4014]

Don’t the Chinese make their own fighter jets (of course happy to be corrected if they’re getting them from somewhere else, surely not the US)? I know there’s a slight difference to passenger travel, but they do have experience, and while I’m guessing the western world isn’t likely to hear about many failures, I haven’t heard of any.

Boeing has done well with developing military spec aircraft and transitioning the technology to passenger stuff, so China could do as well.

I’ll wait for the test flight results specifically, but I don’t think if there were any issues with the test flights that there’d be any issues with the aircraft themselves, I just mightn’t be the first in line. I eagerly anticipate their developments.

I'd suggest none of us here will even know how the test flights went, there be some good reported but we aren't going to here about the bad ones.

i see air asia C919's in the future, im sure many will fly them

history has shown instances when both airbus and boeing have rushed planes to market with disastrous results, i don't agree with branding something poorly built or engineered simply because it's chinese

The quality control just isn't there.

Downer EDI is taking a bath to the tune of around $190M because they bought Chinese build railway passenger cars as the bases for their new Sydney commuter trains.

Over budget and out of time: slow trains from China

They're testing them at the moment, but they don't go out in daylight, only under the cover of darkness and only with a diesel locomotive attached to the back.

My personal advice, don't ride in the first or last car, not all trains (and planes) are created equal. Couple of classic quotes from the article below.

Mr Lu said he had the technical and production capacity to handle the Waratah contract but the idiosyncrasies of Australian quality controls had proved an ''immense headache''.

''It's like a tank,'' said Mr Lu, explaining that Australian carriages are almost twice as heavy as those he is used to and why he has had to get Downer's help in training a separate workforce to do the welding.

NSW laws require that an eight-carriage Waratah train must be built to withstand a head-on collision at a speed of 55km/h without any structural damage or passenger injuries. In China the bar is set at 10 km/h.

 

[munitalP]

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Mr Lu said he had the technical and production capacity to handle the Waratah contract but the idiosyncrasies of Australian quality controls had proved an ''immense headache''...

The idiosyncrasies he speaks of are generally world wide standards! This leads on from my previous post that even when a lot of these companies claim ISO xx_X quality systems in place, it does not mean they have a quality quality system in place! Honestly, I have dealt with some really smart engineers from parts of SEA who have absolutely no clue at all...

 

[UP4014]

The idiosyncrasies he speaks of are generally world wide standards! This leads on from my previous post that even when a lot of these companies claim ISO xx_X quality systems in place, it does not mean they have a quality quality system in place! Honestly, I have dealt with some really smart engineers from parts of SEA who have absolutely no clue at all...

Indeed, and I'm sure those Great Wall utes I'm starting to see around the streets of Sydney fold up nicely in an accident.

 

[Smudge]

Some of you are like spolit brats !!
Been flying, ZVK-BKK-ZVK and VTE-BKK-VTE, in Lao Airlines MA60's for a couple of years now without any problems. They're slowly phasing them out and replacing them with using ATR's but they get me where I need to go.
No worse than flying in an A380 with RR's Trent 900's !!

 

[munitalP]

Some of you are like spolit brats !!

No, not spoiled brats, we have a choice and choose not to do something, what pray tell is spoiled about that?

 

[JohnK]

Without knowing too much about Chinese aircraft (and no real desire to learn anything more about them in the foreseeable future) I would have to say pass....

 

[Cruiser Elite]

This leads on from my previous post that even when a lot of these companies claim ISO xx_X quality systems in place, it does not mean they have a quality quality system in place! all.

Commom knowledge everywhere in China.................."ISO can buy anytime - just need pay correct amount".................funniest joke of all time in China - Stern Hu jailed for corruption.

Was in Beijing / Tianjin last week - we need to urgently ship a 40ft Hi-top to arrive Australia before XMAS - no go with Chinese custom for urgent release - even with the normal RMB5,000 convenience fee - 'Will RMB10,000 get it released?' - no - RMB15,000? - ok - can ship in 2 days.

Still believe ALL Chinese companies earn there ISO's - I think not

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Pass on this as well. I don't feel comfortable yet on Chinese planes

Over budget and out of time: slow trains from China
NSW laws require that an eight-carriage Waratah train must be built to withstand a head-on collision at a speed of 55km/h without any structural damage or passenger injuries. In China the bar is set at 10 km/h.

What happens to eggs in a carton when dropped. Sure, the carton might survive, l doubt all the eggs will...
Cars have a "crumple zone" to lessen the impact during a crash? Maybe they should be thinking along those lines. Sounds like these trains will become makeshift tanks if an invasion ever takes place.
Then again, l believe that we are talking about the NSW Government, that about sums it up.

 

[Justinf]

Any takers for Korean Airlines at the moment?