DJ Unruly passenger forces plane to land in Broome

[Hvr]

A Virgin Blue plane flying from Bali to Melbourne made an unscheduled landing in Broome on Sunday, leaving 148 passengers stranded after a man became ‘‘unruly’’ during the flight.


His behaviour was worrying enough to convince the plane’s captain to divert to Broome where it was met by local police at 1am (WST).


‘‘He was handcuffed while on board, he wasn’t following instructions or requests by the crew,’’ Virgin Blue spokeswoman Melissa Thomson said.


Broome police Sergeant Geoff Dorrington said the unruly passenger was a 40-year-old man from Melbourne who did not threaten anyone on the plane but had displayed ‘‘bizarre’’ behaviour that had alarmed passengers and crew.

Not going to be an easy place for this man to get home from, especially if reports of him having a mental illness are true.

 

[ejb]

Not going to be an easy place for this man to get home from, especially if reports of him having a mental illness are true.

Luckily it says they are flying him to Perth. I hope DJ then will assist him getting home if he does actually have a mental illness.

ejb


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[munitalP]

Luckily it says they are flying him to Perth. I hope DJ then will assist him getting home if he dies actually have a mental illness.

ejb


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Thats a bit harsh ejb!










Darn predictive TXT on iPhones! LOL

 

[ejb]

Luckily it says they are flying him to Perth. I hope DJ then will assist him getting home if he dies actually have a mental illness.

ejb


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Thats a bit harsh ejb!


Darn predictive TXT on iPhones! LOL

Damn the wifes iphone and my fat fingers:evil:

I will now alter the post to "does"

ejb

 

[samh004]

Darn predictive TXT on iPhones! LOL

Damn the wifes iphone and my fat fingers:evil:

I will now alter the post to "does"

ejb

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[StevePER]

They said on the news this morning that the man was sedated and flown to Perth by RFDS.

 

[munitalP]

They said on the news this morning that the man was sedated and flown to Perth by RFDS.

I would be very upset with the way the news had portrayed me (if I was that man) and seriously be looking at a slander case. He had a mental issue come on. This was obvious from my "I restrained him" prison guard (AKA Richard Cranium) - that's assault in my books, to being hand cuffed in the plane!

Did anyone bother to talk to him, ask him what was irking him. What's a threatening manor? Did he yell at someone? That's aggressive not threatening. And pray tell, how did this mans mental condition affect the hydraulics on the DJ aircraft unless he was from some planet near Ursla Beta Minor and skilled in the art of freaking mind control!

There is a lot more to this story than reported - I hope some day we get to hear the whole thing.

munitalP

 

[straitman]

I would be very upset with the way the news had portrayed me (if I was that man) and seriously be looking at a slander case. He had a mental issue come on. This was obvious from my "I restrained him" prison guard (AKA Richard Cranium) - that's assault in my books, to being hand cuffed in the plane!

Did anyone bother to talk to him, ask him what was irking him. What's a threatening manor? Did he yell at someone? That's aggressive not threatening. And pray tell, how did this mans mental condition affect the hydraulics on the DJ aircraft unless he was from some planet near Ursla Beta Minor and skilled in the art of freaking mind control!

There is a lot more to this story than reported - I hope some day we get to hear the whole thing.

munitalP

munitalP,

Are you suggesting that the story is wrong or that DJ got it wrong in diverting the aircraft :?:

 

[oz_mark]

I would be very upset with the way the news had portrayed me (if I was that man) and seriously be looking at a slander case. He had a mental issue come on. This was obvious from my "I restrained him" prison guard (AKA Richard Cranium) - that's assault in my books, to being hand cuffed in the plane!

Did anyone bother to talk to him, ask him what was irking him. What's a threatening manor? Did he yell at someone? That's aggressive not threatening. And pray tell, how did this mans mental condition affect the hydraulics on the DJ aircraft unless he was from some planet near Ursla Beta Minor and skilled in the art of freaking mind control!

The crew still have a duty of care to all the other passengers on board the aircraft. He was handcuffed after refusing to obey instructions.

The aircraft needed to be inspected as it was an overweight landing.

 

[munitalP]

munitalP,

Are you suggesting that the story is wrong or that DJ got it wrong in diverting the aircraft :?:

No, neither, all I'm suggesting is
1. the bully boy tactics of an off duty prison guard equates to assault
2. that there is a lot more to this story than we are being told

I am not suggesting DJ did not act in an absolutely by the rules manor - but sometimes (having seen a cousin in his and my teens, who used to become quite aggressive, easily talked out of his condition) applying a violent restraint does not help at all.

The crew still have a duty of care to all the other passengers on board the aircraft. He was handcuffed after refusing to obey instructions.

The aircraft needed to be inspected as it was an overweight landing.

Of course, but as my bracketed comments above, sometimes talking to these people will calm them down, and it is the duty of DJ to intervene - not Richard C!

Overweight landing, emergency situation, duty of care, the should have dumped fuel if that was the case to get the weight of the aircraft to a safe landing weight IMHO not risked equipment failure due to being over weight.

 

[oz_mark]

Overweight landing, emergency situation, duty of care, the should have dumped fuel if that was the case to get the weight of the aircraft to a safe landing weight IMHO not risked equipment failure due to being over weight.

737's don't have fuel dump systems. The alternatives available are to fly around burning off fuel, or to land heavy and inspect the aircraft.

 

[Princess Fiona]

I would be very upset with the way the news had portrayed me (if I was that man) and seriously be looking at a slander case. He had a mental issue come on. This was obvious from my "I restrained him" prison guard (AKA Richard Cranium) - that's assault in my books, to being hand cuffed in the plane!

Did anyone bother to talk to him, ask him what was irking him. What's a threatening manor? Did he yell at someone? That's aggressive not threatening.

There is a lot more to this story than reported - I hope some day we get to hear the whole thing.

munitalP

Whilst not knowing anything more than has been stated in the news about this case, the passenger may have needed to be restrained/ handcuffed. In my job in ED it is not uncommon to have to physically and then chemically restrain an acutely disturbed patient for their own safety and the safety of others.

 

[rwatts]

No, neither, all I'm suggesting is
1. the bully boy tactics of an off duty prison guard equates to assault
2. that there is a lot more to this story than we are being told

I am not suggesting DJ did not act in an absolutely by the rules manor - but sometimes (having seen a cousin in his and my teens, who used to become quite aggressive, easily talked out of his condition) applying a violent restraint does not help at all.



Of course, but as my bracketed comments above, sometimes talking to these people will calm them down, and it is the duty of DJ to intervene - not Richard C!

Overweight landing, emergency situation, duty of care, the should have dumped fuel if that was the case to get the weight of the aircraft to a safe landing weight IMHO not risked equipment failure due to being over weight.

Isnt it being just a little inflammatory to describe the actions of the Prison Guard as "Bully Boy tactics" ? Despite how they seem to be depicted in movie and television fiction, the several prison guards I have known have been very caring and gentle people. Well able to look after themselves but only as a last resort. Further their experience in the prison system has made those I know far better than average Joe Public at dealing with people suffering from mental health conditions.

It's all very well to relate anecdotes about dealing with people with whom one has had experience at being able to talk to. Dealing with an irrational stranger would have to be a very difficult situation.

What type of aircraft is this ? Many - eg 737 (all models ?) and A320 do not have fuel dump capability. The alternative is to fly around and burn the excess up. The PIC presumably decided it was important to divert the aircraft rather than just leave the person restrained until they got to their scheduled destination.

Richard.

 

[munitalP]

737's don't have fuel dump systems. The alternatives available are to fly around burning off fuel, or to land heavy and inspect the aircraft.

Learn something every day! :shock:

Whilst not knowing anything more than has been stated in the news about this case, the passenger may have needed to be restrained/ handcuffed. In my job in ED it is not uncommon to have to physically and then chemically restrain an acutely disturbed patient for their own safety and the safety of others.

I don't disagree, that's your job, not the job of an off duty prison officer.

Isnt it being just a little inflammatory to describe the actions of the Prison Guard as "Bully Boy tactics" ? Despite how they seem to be depicted in movie and television fiction, the several prison guards I have known have been very caring and gentle people. Well able to look after themselves but only as a last resort. Further their experience in the prison system has made those I know far better than average Joe Public at dealing with people suffering from mental health conditions.

It's all very well to relate anecdotes about dealing with people with whom one has had experience at being able to talk to. Dealing with an irrational stranger would have to be a very difficult situation.

What type of aircraft is this ? Many - eg 737 (all models ?) and A320 do not have fuel dump capability. The alternative is to fly around and burn the excess up. The PIC presumably decided it was important to divert the aircraft rather than just leave the person restrained until they got to their scheduled destination.

Richard.

The bullyboy tactics I refer to is the restraining of a passenger on an aircraft which under NO circumstances is it his job to do, then openly gloat about his own heroics on national TV later that day.

If I was walking down the main street of town, and saw an openly aggressive gentleman yelling at the police, jumped in, restrained him and said there you go blokes, I would be charged.

There is no difference in my mind between the DJ crew or the police in my example.

If the DJ crew had asked for help (and it wasn't reported that they did), I think that is a different story, but who the hell is this guy to physically restrain another PAX? It is assault of another PAX I am concerned about. What happens next - a couple of youngsters having a "dissing match" on the plane, who look openly agressive - does that give the blokes sitting behind them the right to restrain them? Nup, we live in a far more civilised country than that.

And at no time did I stereotype all prison guards with this bloke.

 

[Princess Fiona]

I don't disagree, that's your job, not the job of an off duty prison officer.

Yes, but hopefully not in the confined space of an aircraft! FWIW we use trained security guards to physically restrain people when necessary, I assume the skills of a prison officer would be similar in this regard.
Yet again nonews.com is almost certainly reporting the details of this story which suit them.

 

[munitalP]

Yes, but hopefully not in the confined space of an aircraft! FWIW we use trained security guards to physically restrain people when necessary, I assume the skills of a prison officer would be similar in this regard.
Yet again nonews.com is almost certainly reporting the details of this story which suit them.

Yes very true about no news. The security guards you use are qualified and no doubt deemed competent in their jobs to be sanctioned by you to do their job.

 

[UP4014]

And at no time did I stereotype all prison guards with this bloke.

Agree with munitalP on all things pointed out. A prison guard would be the last person you'd want involved with someone suffering mental illness.

Here is a sterotype for you - overloaded plane, prision guard on board, is there a connection. :mrgreen: