Less than favourable experience - V Australia Business class.

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jad01

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I recently tried V Australia for the first time and flew LAX-BNE in Business class.
Typically I get a vegetarian meal and this was provided on the dinner service.

After dinner I completed the breakfast menu card indicating what I'd like and these were collected by the crew.
When the breakfast service commenced the flight attendant brought a hot breakfast which was in contrast to what I indicated on my menu.
I thought that they accidently gave me someone elses breakfast.

She advised me that was a 'vegatarian breakfast', (yes oddly Weetbix apparently arent vegetarian) and walked away.
I wasnt tickled by the lump of steamed spinach, half a cooked tomato and 3 button mushrooms and left it in wait for a crew member to come along.
The next time the crew return was to collect my tray and the flight attendant looked at my untouched meal and commented something like "oh, not hungry"
I said that indeed I was hungry but not a fan of cooked breakfast.

She did ask me if there was anything else I'd like and I said I would have preferred something from the menu I had selected earlier.
However she looked at the tray and said that was my breakfast.
The interesting part was the guy next to me and a few other passengers around me were being brought 2nd and 3rd helpings.

Tired and hungry I was biting my tongue as I am not one to cause a scene, I finally got one of the crew members to stand still long enough for me to explain the situation.
The outcome....."sorry, we've finished the breakfast service"

Now some of you might say, why not just eat what's in front of you.
If I paid $900 and flew economy I'd say fine.....but I dont think this is something you'd expect on a $10,000+ return fare in business class.

I'm so peeved that I want to write to them to make sure they smarten their act.
But of course the website doesnt have a postal or email address.
Instead there's a online form for complaints that has a limited number of characters which doesnt allow enough information.

I get vegetarian meals for all flights and the likes of Emirates, Singapore Airlines or Qantas have always given me what I ordered on the menu and not just given me what was there.

It's not like a restaurant where if you dont like the service you can get up and leave and go somewhere else.
When you've been in the air on various flights on the go for the past 21 hours it's not a pleasant experience.

I'm keen to know what others on here think.
Is this something you find acceptable for international business class????


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JASON
 
My advice would be to shorten your complaint so that it fits in the online form. There are a couple DJ lurkers here who might be able to assist a little more too.

As for the food, sounds quite nice actually, but I must admit, if I had selected a cereal on a menu card they had given me, I would expect said cereal to be delivered to me.

I would have pushed the button and asked for the cereal, after all, you’re at the front of the plane, you’ve paid, they should deliver.
 
No, I wouldn't find it acceptable - but equally, I wouldn't have waited until someone came along either. If you've received the wrong meal, you need to let someone know about it.
 
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I agree Jason, in your position I would be thoroughly irate as well especially considering the prices we pay for J! I'm not sure why they were not able to provide you with your requested meal even if the cabin is full or there were a lot of other vegetarians onboard.

I have generally had good to great experiences when travelling on J but these have mainly been on OW airlines and I have never travelled with VA. Hope you can get your complaint heard!
 
Weetbix aren't vegetarian? What do they put/use in them? Rather, what did you order?

I thought the breakfast cards usually would allow you to precisely indicate what you want for breakfast, item by item. At least, that's how the breakfast cards work on QF (although the last time I had to fill one out it was only a 9 hour flight, so only continental options were offered (i.e. no eggs, sausages, bacon etc.))

In any case, not acceptable, although such a shame that you'd have to boil over on that note, because it seems that the rest of the flight was fine/good.
 
My suggestion is write a letter, but address it to the CEO.

Has worked a charm when I had complaints with Jetstar.

Just state the facts and ask why you were not served your preferred option, nor had your verbal requests delt with in a satisfactory manner.
 
Just curious as to what type of vegetarian meal you requested. It sounds like you got a vegan option if all you were offered was spinach, mushrooms and tomatoes & I would have thought the cabin crew would verify what type of vegetarian you were & try to do a little bit more that the 'take it or leave it' option you were given. Sounds like it was all two hard for them or maybe they themselves don't realise there's a difference. Y Generation perhaps?

It would be interesting to hear what other people have got in J when ordering vegetarian meals. You wouldn't think it would be that difficult to obtain vegetarian sausages to have for brekkie.

The two main veggie meals on offer are:

VLML (lacto ovo vegetarian) where you will still receive eggs & dairy animal products in your meal but not meat obviously.

VGML (vegan vegetarian) no animal products at all not even honey - even though you don't need to kill a bill to get the honey.

Problem is that a lot of the time in examples given to travel agents and GDS's they always seem to use VGML which is the stricter of the two meals so people think that's the norm not realising it's basically the rabbit food selection.

Some other vegetarian meals codes offered by different airlines include:

AVML (Asian vegetarian)
RVML (Raw vegetarian meal)
IVML (Indian vegetarian)
KVML (Kosher vegetarian)

Vegetarian Frequently Asked Questions - Travel

I would check with the individual airline which ones they offer to find out which meal best suits your needs.

Funny thing is on occasion when someone announces "I'm a vegetarian" when you ask them if they're lacto or vegan they then ask "what's that" then say "oh I just ask for a vegetarian meal so I get my meal first. :rolleyes:
 
Sounds like the 'system' automatically extends the vege option to every meal on your flight, with no option (notwithstanding that you did fill in an order for brekky) to override in flight (or the FAs simply chose not to).

I think that is a flawed system, and a letter is definitely in order.
 
I don't think that is acceptable in any class of travel.

Unfortunately though it would appear that Australian airlines do not care how they the treat customer. I hate cereal and muesli and want a cooked breakfast even if I am in economy. Wrote a letter of complaint to Qantas (for a flight SYD-LAX last year) and they think that it is acceptable to run out of the cooked breakfast choice after serving the first few rows of economy. How can you argue with that type of attitude?
 
The last time I flew V Australia J they mucked up my breakfast request. The breakfast menu request card I thought was a bit limited.

I didn't worry about it too much though.

I thought that the quality of the rest of the product (except for no lounge in Bne) more than made up for it.

I am on them again next month and I will check out the weet bix situation while I am there.
 
I have added them to the list as suggested.

Thanks for that straitman. :)

As for the OP's complaint, the airlines go for the most convienient and least expensive approach, so they'd use VGML for both vegetarians and vegans, rather than waste money on the added expense of needing separate meal types for both.
Does the card to be filled out for meals, actually list what is in the meals?

Jenifur Charne
 
Just out of interest, does anyone have access to the Breakfast menu that VA would supply in J?
 
The two main veggie meals on offer are:

VLML (lacto ovo vegetarian) where you will still receive eggs & dairy animal products in your meal but not meat obviously.

VGML (vegan vegetarian) no animal products at all not even honey - even though you don't need to kill a bill to get the honey.

Problem is that a lot of the time in examples given to travel agents and GDS's they always seem to use VGML which is the stricter of the two meals so people think that's the norm not realising it's basically the rabbit food selection.

Some other vegetarian meals codes offered by different airlines include:

AVML (Asian vegetarian)
RVML (Raw vegetarian meal)
IVML (Indian vegetarian)
KVML (Kosher vegetarian)

V Australia offers the following special meal selections:


BBML Baby Meal Strained meat, vegetables, fruits and desserts and juices are provided for baby.
CHML Child’s meal This meal contains food that children enjoy such as hamburgers, fish fingers and sweet treats.
DBML Diabetic meal This meal is high in complex carbohydrates, high in fibre and low in fat and calories. This meal is suitable for non insulin and insulin dependant diabetics.
GFML Gluten Free meal Food items which contain Gluten are not used in the preparation of this meal.
LFML Low fat/Low cholesterol Meals may contain lean meats, low fat dairy products and high fibre wholegrain breads and cereals.
AVML Asian Vegetarian meals This meal may contain Spicy vegetarian combinations with limited use of dairy foods.
VGML Vegetarian Vegan meals Meals are prepared without products from animal sources. No dairy products are permitted nor honey. High protein foods are used in the preparation of this meal.
VLML Lacto-ovo Vegetarian meals This meal is the same as the above but dairy products are permitted. High protein foods are used in the preparation of this meal.
KSML Kosher meals These meals are prepared according to Jewish dietary laws. VA purchases these meals from reputable manufacturers in each port.
HNML Hindu Meals No beef, veal, pork, raw or smoked fish are used in the preparation of this meal. Spicy foods are acceptable.
MOML Moslem Meals No pork or alcohol is used in the preparation of this meal. Food items must be sourced from approved Halal suppliers.
LSML Low Salt Food items which are low sodium are used in the preparation of this meal.
BLML Bland meal Highly seasoned foods are avoided as well as foods/drinks which can cause gastric discomfort.
NLML Low lactose No dairy products are permitted in the preparation of this meal.


Regardless of what airline and request you put in, BLML seems to be the end result :)
 
Thanks for that straitman. :)

As for the OP's complaint, the airlines go for the most convienient and least expensive approach, so they'd use VGML for both vegetarians and vegans, rather than waste money on the added expense of needing separate meal types for both.
Does the card to be filled out for meals, actually list what is in the meals?

Jenifur Charne

So does this mean that weet bix would not be supplied with a vegetarian meal as it comes with the animal product of Milk??
 
So does this mean that weet bix would not be supplied with a vegetarian meal as it comes with the animal product of Milk??

Going by what the OP reported that the FA said, extracta, that would seem to be the most obvious reasoning as to why weet-bix are not regarded as vegetarian.

Jenifur Charne
 
I still can’t imagine they ran out of weet-bix though. :-|

Even if the customer selected a meal option that comes without milk, they couldn’t have run out had they changed their mind!
 
I still can’t imagine they ran out of weet-bix though. :-|

Even if the customer selected a meal option that comes without milk, they couldn’t have run out had they changed their mind!

Considering the posts eslewhere in the forums on Virgin Blue flights between the east and west coasts running out of meals, yes, I can all too readily see them running out of weet-bix on a V Australia flight.

Jenifur Charne
 
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