Filming takeoffs and landings

[samh004]

I'll add this one then

So basically, per the rules for Qantas, you can use a camera at any time, but not a phone with camera capabilities, as that can only be used if it has flight mode after or before certain times.

Pretty much what everyone knew, and is debated regularly, while certain members try to use the rules to suit their POV.

FWIW I’ve filmed a take-off on my camera, not my iPhone, but it wasn’t that special

 

[Mrmaxwell]

Are we saying some airlines allow the use of cameras?

I still don't understand why certain electronic devices are ok..it should be all or nothing. My iPhone in flight mode or my iPod is certainly no more prone to interfering with flight controls than a camera.

 

[Reggie]

I suppose if FA's were walking around the cabin during take off they might say something, but as they are seated and most video is shot from a window seat, the F/A's probably wouldn't know.

What annoys me are the pax who feel it is fine to use their Blackberry's or iPhones after the FA's have sat down, whilst taxiing to the runway, and during takeoff.

 

[bossreggie]

I'm not that happy if a fellow passenger uses their phone etc after the CSM has asked for them to be switched off. I'm of the opinion that when flying, I should listen to, AND obey the instructions of any of the crew.

 

[QF WP]

Some people think they are beyond the instruction of FA's/CSM's.

I'd lilke them to fly on the wing

 

[straitman]

Some people think they are beyond the instruction of FA's/CSM's.

I'd lilke them to fly on the wing

I would prefer to just leave them behind :!:

 

[Reggie]

I'm not that happy if a fellow passenger uses their phone etc after the CSM has asked for them to be switched off. I'm of the opinion that when flying, I should listen to, AND obey the instructions of any of the crew.

I fly significantly more on QF, but have found more AA pax whom ignore the rules and the CSM/FA instructions.

 

[NM]

Some people think they are beyond the instruction of FA's/CSM's.

I'd lilke them to fly on the wing

I would prefer to just leave them behind :!:

That option generally results in less paperwork

 

[Hvr]

Interesting today on the joy flight from CBR AP that virtually everybody was using their camera the whole flight including take off and landing. Basically anything was able to be photographed,

 

[samh004]

Interesting today on the joy flight from CBR AP that virtually everybody was using their camera the whole flight including take off and landing. Basically anything was able to be photographed,

Which goes along nicely with the fact that cameras aren’t harmful

 

[Smackbum]

Regardless of differing airline policies, the threat to the aircraft from someone filming during takeoff or landing is preceisely zero, but the impact on other passengers are two-fold. Firstly it is a loose item that presents a small danger in rough turbulence, and secondly the amateur filmaking will no-doubt be blocking the window entirely.

Now my preference is for an aisle seat because I find it hard to sit still for long without becoming uncomfortable. The new IFE is a god-send because I can pause the program and have a quick comfort stop or grab some water or just have a quick lap of the cabin. On average I would do this every 1-2 hours, so me occupying a window or middle seat would seriously inconvenience my fellow passengers. But I do not prevent those occupants from accessing the aisle, in fact I welcome the chance to get up to let them pass.

So why does the average window user have to stick their big fat head in front of the window when we are about to land? Is it akin to the same mentality that says "I am allowed to recline my seat now, so I will!"? Would it really kill them to graciously let their fellow passengers see out the window too? If they are allowed to use a camera then they will use that as an excuse for their selfishness.

For that reason I would prefer filming was banned.

 

[UP4014]

Now my preference is for an aisle seat because I find it hard to sit still for long without becoming uncomfortable.

So why does the average window user have to stick their big fat head in front of the window when we are about to land?

For that reason I would prefer filming was banned.

Interesting comments there smacker, you prefer an aisle seat but don't like anyone else looking out the window you didn't want. Do you prefer no one be allowed photography because you don't carry a camera with you? (rehtorical question)

Matt

 

[Smackbum]

Interesting comments there smacker, you prefer an aisle seat but don't like anyone else looking out the window you didn't want. Do you prefer no one be allowed photography because you don't carry a camera with you? (rehtorical question)

Matt

Not quite, Matt. I would prefer the person in the seat closest to the window does not selfishly block the view of their fellow passengers. This is not to say that they can't crane their head to look at something interesting or try to see their house, etc, but this whole business of "I own the window so bad luck" is puerile and childish, don't you think?

So as I said before (didn't I?) my issue with people who film take-offs or landings is not safety related (unless they are in an exit row and responsible for getting the door open because some raincoat-wearing pax who finds it so, so interesting to film something as banal as a takeoff/landing is not someone I want to rely upon when good judgement is needed. But I digress. ). No - my issue is that it is bloody annoying!

Alternatively if you want to sit in my row and block access to the window then I will happily block your access to the aisle, so best you pack a snack and wear daipers!

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Alternatively if you want to sit in my row and block access to the window then I will happily block your access to the aisle, so best you pack a snack and wear daipers!

Nice attitude.

Actually filming from the window does not require blocking the whole window, it only takes a very small portion of the window to rest the camera against.

 

[Hvr]

Not quite, Matt. I would prefer the person in the seat closest to the window does not selfishly block the view of their fellow passengers. This is not to say that they can't crane their head to look at something interesting or try to see their house, etc, but this whole business of "I own the window so bad luck" is puerile and childish, don't you think?

No. So if the window pax doesn't get to choose if they are allowed to use the window to look out who does?

Alternatively if you want to sit in my row and block access to the window then I will happily block your access to the aisle, so best you pack a snack and wear daipers!(sic)

You own the whole row? Like heck, you rent the seat for the duration of the trip, nothing more. If someone chooses a window for whatever reason they get first choice at looking out of it. Your attitude that you control the aisle and no one may cross without your permission and approval of how they choose to occupy their time is what causes air rage.

I really hope this is a wind up but sadly I doubt it. If I was stuck in the window because of an arrogant person like you who didn't like me looking out of the window there would be an immediate referral to airline staff. I would be in and out of my seat as I needed, not what you consider appropriate according to your standards.

Do you actually tell your seat mates what your demands are before you impose them or do they have to find out the hard way?

 

[haydensydney]

Alternatively if you want to sit in my row and block access to the window then I will happily block your access to the aisle, so best you pack a snack and wear daipers!

I eagerly wait for the day where I sit next in the window of your row and I choose to film the landing. I have been gearing up for this type of confrontation for quite some time now

I would be in and out of my seat as I needed, not what you consider appropriate according to your standards.

+1

 

[Smackbum]

I eagerly wait for the day where I sit next in the window of your row and I choose to film the landing. I have been gearing up for this type of confrontation for quite some time now



+1

Now now HaydenSydney. I think the correct term is "tooling up", though what you will be using boggles the mind.

But if we can get past the handbags at 20 paces and go back to some logic, can you explain what is wrong with these two statements.

You are in a Window Seat, and claim exclusive access to the window with no regard to other passengers.
I am in an Aisle Seat ........ (I think you can fill in the rest yourself, can't you?)

These are your rules, not mine. I prefer to give my fellow passengers free and open access to the aisle and will even pass trays across from the cabin staff. But if you feel entitled to block the window then there may be some quid pro quo from your fellow pax.

I hope you have a very small camera.

 

[bossreggie]

Whilst I would enjoy seeing the b@tch fight between haydensydney and smackbum over the window/aisle/camera...... The reality is I never look behind me when I fly so I doubt it will happen.

I must say though smackbum...... UNLESS you are prepared to enter the aircraft VIA the window.... your argument is somewhat illogical.

 

[medhead]

Not quite, Matt. I would prefer the person in the seat closest to the window does not selfishly block the view of their fellow passengers. This is not to say that they can't crane their head to look at something interesting or try to see their house, etc, but this whole business of "I own the window so bad luck" is puerile and childish, don't you think?

Alternatively if you want to sit in my row and block access to the window then I will happily block your access to the aisle, so best you pack a snack and wear daipers!

To answer your question - No In fact i don't even know of this "I own the window" business is that you speak of. How do you determine that someone things they own the window. How do you determine if someone is look for their house, or something interesting, instead of owning the window - mental telepathy? Seriously , listen to yourself

You take an aisle seat because it suits you to be able to get up and down. some people take a window seat because it suits them to look out the window. You want to look out the window that badly take a window seat.

 

[serfty]

As Qantas update their safety cards, they are adding "Cameras with Internal Batteries"* to their list of items that can be used at any time.

It started with the 388's and is progressing.

So I have no issue these days with the recording images using dedicated cameras.

*Presumably, external batteries require a cable that may get tangled/tripped over in an adverse situation.