Six million people a year would use train to Melbourne Airport

[dajop]

Maybe the train line should go MEL to Arden which continues direct to central CBD / Flinders, much more central that southernX.

That has been mentioned as a (the?) pathway into the CBD for the Airport train. Either way, a change at Sunshine or Footscray would allow access to the metro tunnel if the airport train is destined for loop/SX or vice versa.

Apparently there's a Sunshine Station Skybus, which achieves the same thing

Yes true. Although an Arden stop would/should be quicker for those not on the Sunbury, Geelong or Ballarat lines.

 

[elanshin]

Juat landed into MEL. Midnight, 1 skybus every 7 mins. They can't take all the waiting passengers- you're probably waiting for 3-4 skybus before you get on. Uber rank queues at T2 are almost at the Skybus area.

This is when you appreciate having train links.

 

[serfty]

Apparently there's a Sunshine Station Skybus, which achieves the same thing

Between 6am and midnight, every thirty minutes.

 

[dajop]

Juat landed into MEL. Midnight, 1 skybus every 7 mins. They can't take all the waiting passengers- you're probably waiting for 3-4 skybus before you get on. Uber rank queues at T2 are almost at the Skybus area.

This is when you appreciate having train links.

Dunno about skybus but when heavily congested late at night, I’ve found with ride share schlepping over to the T4 pickup area can actually work well.

 

[jrfsp]

Juat landed into MEL. Midnight, 1 skybus every 7 mins. They can't take all the waiting passengers- you're probably waiting for 3-4 skybus before you get on. Uber rank queues at T2 are almost at the Skybus area.

This is when you appreciate having train links.

Or when there’s a crash on the tulla.

It’s a national embarrassment that MEL doesn’t have a rail link, our second busiest airport and the furthest out of town should have been built decades ago.

 

[jb747]

They will build the rail line to Tullamarine, about six months after completion of the replacement airport. Which will be 50km in another direction.

 

[clifford]

Juat landed into MEL. Midnight, 1 skybus every 7 mins. They can't take all the waiting passengers- you're probably waiting for 3-4 skybus before you get on. Uber rank queues at T2 are almost at the Skybus area.

This is when you appreciate having train links.

The answer is simple. Just don't fly into MEL at stupid time (and yes, I have lived there, but not now thankfully).

 

[anat0l]

This is when you appreciate having train links.

Depends on the capacity of a train and how often it will be going.

I'd be curious if the rail link uses standard rolling stock or dedicated ones that might be tailored for airport use, i.e. baggage racks and/or baggage nooks, perhaps seating along the wall rather than rows of seats in order to maximise standing space. If they use standard rolling stock with rows of seats, that'll start to get awkward with all the bags, let alone when it gets full (I foresee a lot of selfish people claiming a pair of seats - one for them and the other for their bags).

 

[clifford]

Depends on the capacity of a train and how often it will be going.

I'd be curious if the rail link uses standard rolling stock or dedicated ones that might be tailored for airport use, i.e. baggage racks and/or baggage nooks, perhaps seating along the wall rather than rows of seats in order to maximise standing space. If they use standard rolling stock with rows of seats, that'll start to get awkward with all the bags, let alone when it gets full (I foresee a lot of selfish people claiming a pair of seats - one for them and the other for their bags).

I think we'll worry about all that after the rail line has been built and trains are running . Not in my lifetime, I think.

 

[anat0l]

I think we'll worry about all that after the rail line has been built and trains are running . Not in my lifetime, I think.

Let's play a game: which city will get a proper airport to city centre rail link first:

• Melbourne (Tullamarine)
• Los Angeles
• Manila (NAIA or any of the two new airport sites)

I'd add Western Sydney to that list too, but that's not fair - the WSI planners (I believe, or probably) got their manure together and their rail is definitely on the cards, not in a wishy-washy maybe-maybe not situation.

 

[Jacques Vert]

Depends on the capacity of a train and how often it will be going.

And where it goes...the new IST airport has a train but I understand you to change a number of times to get to the city .

Couldn't get that wrong in MEL, or could they ?

 

[JessicaTam]

And where it goes...the new IST airport has a train but I understand you to change a number of times to get to the city .

Couldn't get that wrong in MEL, or could they ?

 

[clifford]

And where it goes...the new IST airport has a train but I understand you to change a number of times to get to the city .

Couldn't get that wrong in MEL, or could they ?

But maybe they could get it wrong in Sydney too (WSI?).

And, yes, the Metro line from IST goes to nowhere in particular, if you're wanting to go to the city. I usually try to take the public bus to where I am going (not downtown, if there is such a place in Istanbul), it's more convenient, for me.

 

[dajop]

Couldn't get that wrong in MEL, or could they ?

Most people will have to change trains somewhere, at least once. But that's how transport operates the world over.

It's looking like the metro tunnel is the preferred route so people not heading to the centre axis of the CBD or Pakenham line will have to change at one of Sunshine, Footscray, State Library, Town Hall or Caulfield.

 

[Hvr]

Most people will have to change trains somewhere, at least once. But that's how transport operates the world over.

It's looking like the metro tunnel is the preferred route so people not heading to the centre axis of the CBD or Pakenham line will have to change at one of Sunshine, Footscray, State Library, Town Hall or Caulfield.

From Sunshine station the Metro tunnel also goes to Cranbourne and Sunbury. And also at Sunshine station the Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo V Line trains pick up and drop off giving Western regional residents a one change trip.

 

[anat0l]

But maybe they could get it wrong in Sydney too (WSI?).

And, yes, the Metro line from IST goes to nowhere in particular, if you're wanting to go to the city. I usually try to take the public bus to where I am going (not downtown, if there is such a place in Istanbul), it's more convenient, for me.

And where it goes...the new IST airport has a train but I understand you to change a number of times to get to the city .

Couldn't get that wrong in MEL, or could they ?

A bit O/T...

My understanding is that the last stations of the IST airport (new one) metro line is closer or in the business district(s). But not great for tourists; it does take 2 or more changes to get from the terminus to the Blue Mosque / Hagia Sophia, for example.

Connecting the lines between where the new IST airport metro line is to any reasonable one going to Sultanahmet would be a bit of a Herculean challenge in terms of engineering and cost, I'd imagine.

Buses are mostly a better idea in IST as there are more options, if but for it's a bit more confusing than the metro and the traffic (but that's IST for you). The airport bus in IST costs around AUD 12 one-way, however, so it beats MEL for value.

 

[dajop]

From Sunshine station the Metro tunnel also goes to Cranbourne and Sunbury. And also at Sunshine station the Geelong, Ballarat and Bendigo V Line trains pick up and drop off giving Western regional residents a one change trip.

Probably the most difficult line to connect to will be the Upfield line (having to either walk 800m from Arden to Nth Melb or change at Footscray and Nth Melb or go into State Library). And the Broady line - probably be quicker still to stick to the 901 bus depending on where along the line you needed to go.

 

[serfty]

Probably the most difficult line to connect to will be the Upfield line (having to either walk 800m from Arden to Nth Melb or change at Footscray and Nth Melb or go into State Library). And the Broady line - probably be quicker still to stick to the 901 bus depending on where along the line you needed to go.

Living towards Frankston, I may as well stick to the 901 and Broady. I probably would have anyway as it currently costs me between $0 and $2.85 one way ... (that's often bus-train-train-bus).