Qantas' Impending Change to Tokyo Flight Schedule

[Ansett Nostalgic]

QF should look at expanding services to KIX and cough

 

[elanshin]

QF should look at expanding services to KIX and cough

No planes.

CTS is seasonal expansion next. KIX is currently being served by JQ.

cough i think would never end up being a QF group route. Best they can do is work out a codeshare with JL.

 

[Himeno]

The drawback is you have to transit through SYD. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

We did the NRT-MEL flight last week, and while it was an uncomfortable night's sleep, we were in the domestic QF lounge within 45 minutes of landing (which included a delay for a malfunctioning aerobridge). Border Force staff are much friendlier in MEL than SYD too.

I arrived on QF80 this morning. It took longer to get bags then to get through either part of Border Force (not sure how much time the express pass saved).
Not sure why they needed to dump 4 arriving QF flights worth of bags on the same belt.

I asked the cabin crew if they had heard anything about the pending HND changes. They said they hadn't heard anything and also like HND more then NRT.

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QF should look at expanding services to KIX and cough

Not sure QF would find cough worth it. They had a 3 weekly SYD-KIX before covid. They haven't restarted it because they sent the aircraft to India instead when international ops restarted after covid lockdowns.

 

[markis10]

asked the cabin crew if they had heard anything about the pending HND changes. They said they hadn't heard anything and also like HND more then NRT.

Not surprising, NRT probably sees crew hotel options near the airport with limited cheap entertainment nearby. Last time I stayed at the NRT Hilton our shuttle bus to the local mall was very popular with the EK crew

 

[Princess Fiona]

JAL lounges start opening at 6

The JAL F lounge opens at 0530 when there is a JL early flight departure,
I forget exactly which destination: days of the week but I used the F lounge in April before QF26

 

[Himeno]

The JAL lounges at HND are listed as opening at 0530 until last flight.
The last JL flight is JL77 to MNL at 0155.
The first JL flight is JL47 to HEL at 0750, 5 days/week (except mon/wed). Otherwise it's JL91 to GMP at 0825.

 

[trendwhore]

I arrived on QF80 this morning. It took longer to get bags then to get through either part of Border Force (not sure how much time the express pass saved).
Not sure why they needed to dump 4 arriving QF flights worth of bags on the same belt.

Normal MEL experience haha.

I notice the occasional reward seat available next year now for NRT still so I guess the HND thing is off the cards

 

[elanshin]

Normal MEL experience haha.

I notice the occasional reward seat available next year now for NRT still so I guess the HND thing is off the cards

I don't think that's anything to judge by. They have cancelled routes within a couple of months of annoucement that was bookable way out into the future and found alternatives. This wouldn't even be that major of a change for the majority of pax as TYO often is the destination.

 

[ozflier]

I don't think that's anything to judge by. They have cancelled routes within a couple of months of annoucement that was bookable way out into the future and found alternatives. This wouldn't even be that major of a change for the majority of pax as TYO often is the destination.

I’ve travelled to Japan in their winter every couple of years and am finding it harder to get a reasonably priced business class seat on Qantas. Sadly JAL does not fly direct out of Brisbane. I can’t remember a time when there were so few discounted J seats but so many empty seats in the J seatmap ( I understand the risks of this interpretation). Is QF holding back business seats for a sale or are there changes coming to the route ? Maybe I am overthinking this .

 

[elanshin]

I’ve travelled to Japan in their winter every couple of years and am finding it harder to get a reasonably priced business class seat on Qantas. Sadly JAL does not fly direct out of Brisbane. I can’t remember a time when there were so few discounted J seats but so many empty seats in the J seatmap ( I understand the risks of this interpretation). Is QF holding back business seats for a sale or are there changes coming to the route ? Maybe I am overthinking this .

No, Japan prices are still relatively premium despite everything. Also good chance they believe there's still people willing to book closer to the dates.

Earlier this January I came back on a flight with 3 separate teenage girls all 3 with ACL or other skiing related injuries in Business so they may factor in these kinds of last minute changes too.

 

[ozflier]

No, Japan prices are still relatively premium despite everything. Also good chance they believe there's still people willing to book closer to the dates.

Earlier this January I came back on a flight with 3 separate teenage girls all 3 with ACL or other skiing related injuries in Business so they may factor in these kinds of last minute changes too.

Thank you. Hope your girls recovered ok.

 

[AIRwin]

Thank you. Hope your girls recovered ok.

I don't think they were in the same travelling group

 

[elanshin]

Thank you. Hope your girls recovered ok.

I don't think they were in the same travelling group

Yeh they weren't people I knew but seated next to us in the centre areas. Makes for interesting conversations when girl one basically said she tore it in a skiing accident, then the girl behind said me too and one other nearby was also "yeh me three".

 

[Youfah Mizzum]

I’ve travelled to Japan in their winter every couple of years and am finding it harder to get a reasonably priced business class seat on Qantas.

Same. Although I'm hunting for the elusive J rewards seats in early Feb, return. Not Plus, no way!

I've got alerts on seats.aero waiting for the release. Past seasons I'd just jump on the Q website & book quite easily around April or May for the following Feb. This year...crickets.

I suspect the devaluation coming Aug 5th will see (hopefully) some reward seats released.

In the meantime...and to the subject of this this thread I have been keeping an eye on the changes for the various QF flights which have been bandied about. And possibly mentioned upthread but those changes haven't happened yet when I look.
E.G QF59 was mooted to leave SYD at 8:30pm SYD but is still showing 21:25.
QF26 was mentioned as leaving HND 10:00pm but is still showing 06:55 am.

The return flight makes a really big difference...I am somewhat tolerant of Y when travelling in the daytime so the 6:55am doable but if its leaving at 10pm, then I want J to get some shuteye.

 

[elanshin]

Same. Although I'm hunting for the elusive J rewards seats in early Feb, return. Not Plus, no way!

I've got alerts on seats.aero waiting for the release. Past seasons I'd just jump on the Q website & book quite easily around April or May for the following Feb. This year...crickets.

Just a note seat.aero can't find seats that are status released (and there are at times). I've often seen seats on various routes (JP included at times) that don't show on seats.aero from Qantas.

 

[Youfah Mizzum]

Just a note seat.aero can't find seats that are status released

Status released? What is that? Is that when a WP rings and asks for rewards seats to be made available? If so, wouldn't QF just release seats that the caller wants, not a whole larger batch? And then wouldn't the CS person then make the booking right then and there without them ever being published externally?

 

[elanshin]

Status released? What is that? Is that when a WP rings and asks for rewards seats to be made available? If so, wouldn't QF just release seats that the caller wants, not a whole larger batch? And then wouldn't the CS person then make the booking right then and there without them ever being published externally?

No as in if you're Gold/platinum and you're logged in, you can see flights but bronze can't.

 

[Youfah Mizzum]

No as in if you're Gold/platinum and you're logged in, you can see flights but bronze can't.

Ahhh! Got it
Well, as a bronze that's OK if seats.aero can't show them.

 

[serfty]

Status released? What is that? Is that when a WP rings and asks for rewards seats to be made available? If so, wouldn't QF just release seats that the caller wants, not a whole larger batch? And then wouldn't the CS person then make the booking right then and there without them ever being published externally?

No - there can be greater automatic award availability for Qantas status members, and can vary depending on status levels.

This can be seen when a Bronze members logs on and sees different availability than that shown to a statused member for the same search.