Made any travel mistakes lately?

[jastel]

Usually that only works if it hasn't been paid, hopefully the parking company does the right thing and works out a way to give you back the money! Otherwise it'll be a refund to Hertz, then they'll whack on an admin fee to get it back to you.......

I specifically told them NOT to give the money to Hertz but contact me...doubt they will listen...will wait a few days and contact them again.

 

[Happy Dude]

Just to clarify again.... it's not a ticket, it's an invoice for use of private land. Don't worry, I get to have this back and forth with friends here in the UK too

Understood but through no fault of their own, the hotel and then Hertz caused @jastel some loss (which may have been rectified). It also demonstrates that the company issuing the invoice can obtain rego details and send their invoice (which will look like a ticket) to the registered owner. Or their may have been a Hertz sticker visible.

In some states here, private companies can't get that information from, for eg, Vicroads, so have nowhere to send an invoice except attach it to the vehicle. Dunno about other states or counties in the UK. We live in the ACT but my wife's car is registered in VIC so when we use, say, a Wilson carpark we don't pay. Twice we've got a "ticket" and twice we've ignored without ramification. We've also seen "tickets" on nearby cars but not ours so maybe some "parking inspectors" know. Their business model relies upon the victim contacting them to dispute and unwittingly leaving their details.

 

[Brissy1]

Not a travel mistake but I had day trip to Sydney 2 days ago and I've lost my Driver's licence. (First time ever)

- Use licence as ID at BNE Virgin Priority check-in
- Hire car at Mascot Simba office

Put licence back in phone leather wallet where I've stored it since using a phone wallet a few years ago.

In VA lounge I was sitting in the low chairs near bar and dropped phone. I notice that drivers licence is missed. I checked everywhere.

I'd actually dropped phone 4-5 times that day but that's another story. Visit dad in hospital, home with mum/brother, went to CBA branch in mall, back to Simba and then airport. Didn't use licence again.

I think I can order drivers licence online. Will they deliver to Sydney address or can I ask for delivery to Brisbane. Brother can send to Brisbane anyway.

* Starting to get very forgetful and more clumsy by the day *

You do realise that qld has a digital licence option?

 

[Flashback]

Understood but through no fault of their own, the hotel and then Hertz caused @jastel some loss (which may have been rectified). It also demonstrates that the company issuing the invoice can obtain rego details and send their invoice (which will look like a ticket) to the registered owner. Or their may have been a Hertz sticker visible.

In some states here, private companies can't get that information from, for eg, Vicroads, so have nowhere to send an invoice except attach it to the vehicle. Dunno about other states or counties in the UK. We live in the ACT but my wife's car is registered in VIC so when we use, say, a Wilson carpark we don't pay. Twice we've got a "ticket" and twice we've ignored without ramification. We've also seen "tickets" on nearby cars but not ours so maybe some "parking inspectors" know. Their business model relies upon the victim contacting them to dispute and unwittingly leaving their details.

In the UK, they're allowed to get that information. It's all regulated.

And while I'm not having a go at Jastel here, "through no fault of their own" isn't quite true. There are signs in the car park, there are signs and a terminal on the front desk. It's there, but if you're not looking for it, or your mind wanders off, then it's easily missed. Again ...... go on ......... ask me how I know

You do realise that qld has a digital licence option?

Rental car companies (especially overseas) often won't accept them.

 

[clifford]

We live in the ACT but my wife's car is registered in VIC

Is that legal? I also live in the ACT and have lived in Vic and have done the same thing (and I know in my case it wasn't).

 

[clifford]

There are signs in the car park, there are signs and a terminal on the front desk. It's there, but if you're not looking for it, or your mind wanders off, then it's easily missed. Again ...... go on ......... ask me how I know

Yes, I know all about that, staying at hotels at motorway services. You are bombarded with signs both outside and inside, so it's hard to miss, and when you get to reception you are usually asked if you've registered your car on the system.

 

[Jacques Vert]

NSW allows 3 months before the rego needs to be transferred to NSW. I think the other states are the same.

I know of people living in NSW and driving vehicle with QLD rego being fined for unregistered and uninsured.

 

[AuSammy]

NSW allows 3 months before the rego needs to be transferred to NSW. I think the other states are the same.

I know of people living in NSW and driving vehicle with QLD rego being fined for unregistered and uninsured.

IIRC in Qld you have 14 days to reregister.

 

[VPS]

Rental car companies (especially overseas) often won't accept them.

Even in Adelaide with an SA drivers license

 

[JohnK]

You do realise that qld has a digital licence option?

This is NSW drivers licence and many places (such as hiring a car overseas) don't accept digital licences.

Anyway licence found in hire car and I'll pick up when in Sydney in 2-3 weeks.

 

[Gladstone Tim]

This is NSW drivers licence and many places (such as hiring a car overseas) don't accept digital licences.

Anyway licence found in hire car and I'll pick up when in Sydney in 2-3 weeks.

That’s great to hear JohnK. A good opportunity to experience something positive.

 

[Flyfrequently]

Again.. that's not quite how it works in the UK.

You could try contact the hotel and have them liaise with the company on your behalf. The FOH Manager would be the best person in this instance.

Go on ... ask me how I know all this ...

With your always helpful advice and life experience, it's so nice to have you back @Flashback

 

[Flyfrequently]

It's there, but if you're not looking for it, or your mind wanders off, then it's easily missed. Again ...... go on ......... ask me how I know

Ok @Flashback I'll bite - how????

 

[Happy Dude]

Is that legal? I also live in the ACT and have lived in Vic and have done the same thing (and I know in my case it wasn't).

I think there is a requirement to transfer over the rego but we've been here for only ten years - who's to say that we're moving here permanently? We have a house in VIC too and use that as the rego address. A bit like hire car companies I guess.

We don't keep it registered interstate to diddle private carparks out of a few dollars. It's the time-consuming process and amount of effort required that we're not keen to invest in.

 

[Flashback]

Ok @Flashback I'll bite - how????

I've been involved both in the implementation of one in our local area..... as well as, been the victim of the implementation of one at our local supermarket. I think I'm FINALLY at the point now where muscle memory will jolt me to do it when I get back to the car and go "Oh bollocks", but I think I might have an invoice or 2 coming from the past month. That'll be a trip back down there, showing my CC transaction to the manager pleading with him to ask the parking company to cancel it ...

I think there is a requirement to transfer over the rego but we've been here for only ten years - who's to say that we're moving here permanently? We have a house in VIC too and use that as the rego address. A bit like hire car companies I guess.

We don't keep it registered interstate to diddle private carparks out of a few dollars. It's the time-consuming process and amount of effort required that we're not keen to invest in.

One thing I noticed when in WA a few months back is a heck of a lot non-WA plates on the road. When I left 15 years ago, it was a rare sight. I wonder why....

 

[Franky]

I've been involved both in the implementation of one in our local area..... as well as, been the victim of the implementation of one at our local supermarket. I think I'm FINALLY at the point now where muscle memory will jolt me to do it when I get back to the car and go "Oh bollocks", but I think I might have an invoice or 2 coming from the past month. That'll be a trip back down there, showing my CC transaction to the manager pleading with him to ask the parking company to cancel it ...

One thing I noticed when in WA a few months back is a heck of a lot non-WA plates on the road. When I left 15 years ago, it was a rare sight. I wonder why....

Perhaps they've seen the light, and are migrating….

 

[Black Duck]

"One thing I noticed when in WA a few months back is a heck of a lot non-WA plates on the road. When I left 15 years ago, it was a rare sight. I wonder why."

Just seems to be an awful lot more visitors than most years. I live right down south near a tourist town. It's always got a lot of folk from the east. This last few months there are many more as well as many more WA ones. Loads of caravanning folk too.

Having said that, my livelihood is somewhat dependent on the visitor population so I won't protest too much.

 

[Zero]

Understood but through no fault of their own, the hotel and then Hertz caused @jastel some loss (which may have been rectified). It also demonstrates that the company issuing the invoice can obtain rego details and send their invoice (which will look like a ticket) to the registered owner. Or their may have been a Hertz sticker visible.

In some states here, private companies can't get that information from, for eg, Vicroads, so have nowhere to send an invoice except attach it to the vehicle. Dunno about other states or counties in the UK...

Their business model relies upon the victim contacting them to dispute and unwittingly leaving their details.

There are three jurisdictions for parking in the UK - England & Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The DVLA registers cars in EW&S and the DVA does that for NI. The DVLA does not have information about a vehicle's owner, only the "registered keeper" who may not be the owner.

Anybody can request information about a vehicle's registered keeper from the DVLA if they have a valid reason and pay the fee (£2.50). For example, if I found a car parked on my driveway in the UK I could request the keeper's details.

In all of the UK, it is the driver of the car who is initially responsible for any private parking charges. The parking companies would have to catch the driver in the act of parking, or get the keeper to admit to being the driver (or nominate someone else as the driver). Without evidence of the driver, a court claim against the keeper would fail if the keeper denied being the driver.

For England & Wales, this changed in 2012 as the government introduced "keeper liability" if the driver could not be identified or did not pay. Several criteria needed to be fulfilled by the parking company, for example sending a particular form with specific pieces of information to the keeper between exactly 28 and 56 days of the parking "offence". As many parking companies could not be bothered to comply with this requirement, it was still often possible to get out of paying, though the ones that are still in business have learned to comply by now.

Scotland legislated for keeper liability in 2019, but as of 2025 that legislation is still not in force. Northern Ireland has no keeper liability. So in these two parts of the UK you can park as you wish on private land provided that nobody takes a photo of your face. The problem for tourists of course is that a car rental agency will just pay the invoice and not bother to fight it.

 

[RooFlyer]

The DVLA does not have information about a vehicle's owner, only the "registered keeper" who may not be the owner.

Wonder why they wouldn’t go with the owner ? Certainly identifiable - you simply fine them and get them to sort out whoever was driving their vehicle at the time do you get their money back off them?

 

[Jacques Vert]

I think there is a requirement to transfer over the rego but we've been here for only ten years - who's to say that we're moving here permanently?

In the unlikely event that it went to Court, it.may come down to where you are registered to vote.