Finnair’s Business Class AirLounge seat

[VC10]

Two weeks back from a 5 week European trip. Flew AY HKG to HEL and HEL/HKG in J at the beginning and end of the trip, both overnight flights. QF to HK on the way up (poor) and CX on the way back (excellent). I could not get comfortable in these seats and only got about 4 hours sleep each time. Crew was very efficient but food so/so. No espresso coffee despite it being on the menu ("the machine is broken"). Platinum non Shengen lounge at HEL was excellent for an 8 hour wait on the way back, but the CX First lounge at the Pier was the icing on the cake. CX J class seats much better IMO on the same aircraft (A350).

 

[PERLHR]

No espresso coffee despite it being on the menu ("the machine is broken").

That, sadly, is what they always say. Either get it or take it away from the menu. They have been saying that for years!!

 

[Emkay]

.... only got about 4 hours sleep each time. ,,,,

Hi VC10 - can you pin the blame for your limited sleep on any particular aspect? Form the earlier posts to this thread, I guess it could be the hardness of the seat base, a preference for some angle to the bed rather than completely flat, the 'mattress' getting tangled up or falling off the seat during sleep, the seatbelt continually over-tightening itself as you slept, or (if in front row/s) light or noise from the J toilets, or a combination of the above - or something not previously mentioned by anyone??

 

[VC10]

Hi VC10 - can you pin the blame for your limited sleep on any particular aspect? Form the earlier posts to this thread, I guess it could be the hardness of the seat base, a preference for some angle to the bed rather than completely flat, the 'mattress' getting tangled up or falling off the seat during sleep, the seatbelt continually over-tightening itself as you slept, or (if in front row/s) light or noise from the J toilets, or a combination of the above - or something not previously mentioned by anyone??

Sure - you have picked a couple of the issues I had. I generally like to be not quite flat and this is not possible on this seat unless you want a stiff neck. The "fill in" section which swings up to fill the gap is a bit difficult to negotiate if you need to get up. The "mattress" was really not thick enough and did tend to get a bit tangled up. I found it a bit claustrophobic at times as well. On the positive side the bathrooms were always spotless. These seats would be fine on a daytime flight.

 

[luckypierre]

I could not get comfortable in these seats and only got about 4 hours sleep each time.

My recent experience SIN-HEL, a little different. I slept quite comfortably in seat 2A, though the mattress topper ended up one side to me, it didn’t stay in position. I don’t recall any issue with the self tensioning belt. However, as others have reported, I found the seating position less comfortable. I needed to use both pillows for head/neck and back support. And of course every time you moved the pillows moved and had to be placed back into the optimal comfort position.

 

[RooFlyer]

SIN-HEL, a little different. I slept quite comfortably in seat 2A

Bulkhead. Footwell bigger.

 

[clifford]

I've never had a problem with these seats, but then after flying well over 4 million miles with various airlines (3M with UA), I know what the alternatives might be.

 

[OZDUCK]

What I find interesting is that these seats have been around since 2022 and I am unable to locate any other airline that has ordered them. I also can't find any indication that they are subject to Finnair copyright.

It must be said that I have only researched this on my phone with my fat fingers