Man dies on 'unbearably hot' flight

[Slats7]

Man dies on 'unbearably hot' flight | Travel | News.com.au

PASSENGERS on a Qantas-affiliated flight are outraged after an Australian man died shortly after the air conditioning failed and temperatures soared above 35C.


The man, aged in his 80s, passed away after suffering what was thought to be a heart attack or stroke on board the Air France/Qantas flight from Paris to Singapore last night.



Other passengers were furious the Boeing 777 departed in the first place given the fact the airconditioning wasn't working.

The media love bringing Qantas into things and bringing them down.

 

[codash1099]

Man dies on 'unbearably hot' flight | Travel | News.com.au

The media love bringing Qantas into things and bringing them down.

I wouldn't expect any less of them. :evil:

 

[Kendall Roy]

Man dies on 'unbearably hot' flight | Travel | News.com.au

The media love bringing Qantas into things and bringing them down.

I'm no legal guru, but based on the constant News Limited agenda driven bashings, does QF have scope to sue scumbag Murdoch and his cronies for "defamation"?

IMO, they are hurting QF.

The wording in this article is nothing short of a joke!

 

[harvyk]

This article has to be the cheapest shot I've ever seen the media take at Qantas.

This is akin to a distant relative of mine being caught speeding and then me having to take the blame and pay the fine.

I'm sorry for the guys family, but I really want to see QF both pull advertising from news corp and for QF to sue them into the ground.

 

[Slats7]

I'd love to see QF take action.

 

[simongr]

This is akin to a distant relative of mine being caught speeding and then me having to take the blame and pay the fine.

Not quite.

This is more akin to you selling you distant relative's car to someone and them crashing because the brake pads were shot.

QF sold a product and should take responsibility for the delivery of that product in the same way that they if they had delivered the product themselves.

If a manufacturer outsources production of a consumer product then the manufacturer still bears some responsibility if the outsource provider has supplied a defective product.

 

[samh004]

His age is 85 now, not sure if it was originally just labelled in his 80's or not, but they're cleaning it up, and giving the actual facts at last.

What a joke of a piece. I'm surprised they haven't bashed BA and AA because they have agreements with QF, who cares if QF even sold tickets for their flights, may as well slander them as best they can.

Was Murdoch turned down for a CL card? Is that why he's so bitter?

 

[Kendall Roy]

QF sold a product and should take responsibility for the delivery of that product in the same way that they if they had delivered the product themselves.

If a manufacturer outsources production of a consumer product then the manufacturer still bears some responsibility if the outsource provider has supplied a defective product.

Yes and no really.

In this instance, the consumer is well aware that their flight is being operated by another airline as a result of:

1) Being alerted at the time of booking.
2) The abscence of a Roo on the tail.

 

[Slats7]

A Qantas spokeswoman said the customer who passed away had booked through Air France and it was unable to disclose his nationality for privacy reasons.

That sums it up.

 

[Kendall Roy]

That sums it up.

Exhibit A for court case :mrgreen:

 

[harvyk]

That sums it up.

As I said, they have used the most tenuous link to shift the blame from Air France to Qantas and are then passing it off as a "news story" indicating Qantas is squarely to blame for this death, given that QF didn't even sell the flight to the pax, I would say my original "guilty by association" comment was accurate.
samh04, I forgot about the CL cards. I'd say some DYKWIA type was denied a CL card and is thus using nonews as their revenge, no serious [FONT=&quot]journalist would have printed such rubbish.[/FONT]

 

[oz_mark]

Imagine if it had been an Airbus.......

 

[harvyk]

Imagine if it had been an Airbus.......

:shock:


nonews would have wet themselves with glee...

 

[Flying Fox]

I'm surprised that no one has said that this was all caused because the aircraft was not maintained by Australian engineers

 

[simongr]

A man is dead - I dont think it is appropriate to turn this into a joke thread with smilies being thrown around.

the tenuous link was some pax complaining about the flight and delays after having booked through QF. The fact that the dead pax did not book through is clear in the article. It is the idiot ranting that QF should have fixed his travel plans as booked through them that is the source of QF news.

 

[harvyk]

simongr, I don't think anyone is happy with the situation. As I said I feel very sorry for the man's family. It's a terrible thing which has happened.


What people here are in effect complaining about is nonews' obvious vendetta against QF. No doubt the story of someone dying on an aircraft where a link back to QF could be established - even though that pax had no dealings with QF - obviously made their day.

 

[Flying Fox]

A man is dead - I dont think it is appropriate to turn this into a joke thread with smilies being thrown around.

No offence was meant in relation to this man's passing. And I apologise if I offended you.

However, my comment was added only to highlight how Australian media have used any minor link to QF as a vehicle for criticism with a consistent theme of 'Australian aircraft maintenance is superior[FONT=&quot][/FONT] to that of the rest of the world'.

 

[medhead]

As I said, they have used the most tenuous link to shift the blame from Qantas to Air France and are then passing it off as a "news story" indicating Qantas is squarely to blame for this death, given that QF didn't even sell the flight to the pax, I would say my original "guilty by association" comment was accurate.
samh04, I forgot about the CL cards. I'd say some DYKWIA type was denied a CL card and is thus using nonews as their revenge, no serious [FONT=&quot]journalist would have printed such rubbish.[/FONT]

Sorry, it is a bit hard to understand the logic here. If the story shifts the blame from Qantas to AF exactly how are they passing it off as QF to blame.

How about all the News limited bashing on here? Talk about double standards. One option is that the story is a QF bash. The other option is that the reporter working in Australia, for an Australian news paper, owned by an Australian Company, is trying to establish a link to explain the relevance of the story in Australia. In my book that is called good journalism - to explain the context of the story. It also highlights for people who aren't well travelled that they could end up on an Air France aircraft even if they book direct with Qantas.

For these reasons I would suggest the guilt by association angle is far from accurate and is really only one of multiple options for why qantas' name has been included in the story.

Given the thread title I also feel that these comments about qantas bashing are off topic not to mention extremely distasteful.

 

[harvyk]

medhead, sorry I got QF and AF the wrong way around.

As for the News limited bashing which goes on here well this is a result of the level of effort which News Ltd seems to go into finding links back to QF so they can continue reporting QF in a negative light.

Why didn't News limited attempt to ask AF what happened? As they where the operating carrier and the ones who sold the tickets. It would have been very easy to at least contact AF as they have an Australian number (1300 390 190, which I got off their australian website in 10 seconds flat), plus it would have made a much better article as it would have had it from the horses mouth as to what happened rather than 2nd hand (eg the lawyer) or 3rd hand (eg the QF rep)

 

[pully]

it was also reported that the air france plane was on the ground full of passengers for 6 hours, no air conditioning and the temp outside was 35.

this was after the death was confirmed.
can anyone say why passengers are not permitted off in such conditions?
it seems inhumane, apparently no food or fluids were given.

lucky there were no other cases of ill health or worse.
why are not passengers treated better?
what are their rights in such situations?

flying is not what it was. i realise it is cheaper but there is not the service or care that was once commonplace.
sometimes we get good service but it is not consistent.
but when it comes down to health and safety issues it is becomimg more serious than what standard of wine/food is being served.

being held like that on a plane in the heat is not very good, but what can be done? can you insist in being let out if you feel unwell?
regards.