Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[pangwen]

Hi guys, quick question, I have a (BNE-SYD-SIN) one ticket and a separate SIN - BNE ( my home) booked on points.
If I started my round the world trip from Singapore would a flight such as BA16 - SYD to London but does stop in singapore count as returning to home country?
Does qantas charge the booking fee to add flights to the itinerary even though you cant do it online.
Anyone recent exeperience of wait times? thanks guys

With respect to your first point, are you proposing something like the following on the OWA? (I know the below is a bit of a 'waste' and doesn't maximise stops/flights hah)

SIN-SYD
SYD-LHR (e.g. on BA16)
LHR-LAX
LAX-NRT
NRT-SIN

I'll let others answer the question, but I think that's scenario you were considering

 

[flapper]

I'm a bit unclear on the situation in your first question. As for change fees, yes, Qantas does charge each and every time you make changes to this product, even though changes can't be made online (and even if they could be, Qantas's rules would apply the fee (a change fee) anyway). However, that fee is currently waived for international bookings through 31 December 2022.

You must book before 30 Sep 2022 and can make changes without fees up to 31 Dec 2022.

 

[Jezza1222]

With respect to your first point, are you proposing something like the following on the OWA? (I know the below is a bit of a 'waste' and doesn't maximise stops/flights hah)

SIN-SYD
SYD-LHR (e.g. on BA16)
LHR-LAX
LAX-NRT
NRT-SIN

I'll let others answer the question, but I think that's scenario you were considering

You must book before 30 Sep 2022 and can make changes without fees up to 31 Dec 2022.

Thanks heaps, this is what I am proposing
Yes, I am proposing,
SIN-BNE - stop over in Brisbane ( already booked)
SYD - LHR - stop over in London - BA16 - I am concerned that it stops in Singapore, although it is ticketed as SYD- London - no mention of Singapore.. would that count as returning to the destination.
LHR-BUD - Stopover
BUD-LHR-Dubai - stop over in Dubai( or however I can get from Bud to Dubai on oneword)
DOH -BNE - stopover - would that be invalid or could I book as transit as dont really need to go back to singapore
BNE - SIn - although dont really need or want this flight

Any thoughts would be great.

 

[flapper]

Thanks heaps, this is what I am proposing
Yes, I am proposing,
SIN-BNE - stop over in Brisbane ( already booked)
SYD - LHR - stop over in London - BA16 - I am concerned that it stops in Singapore, although it is ticketed as SYD- London - no mention of Singapore.. would that count as returning to the destination.
LHR-BUD - Stopover
BUD-LHR-Dubai - stop over in Dubai( or however I can get from Bud to Dubai on oneword)
DOH -BNE - stopover - would that be invalid or could I book as transit as dont really need to go back to singapore
BNE - SIn - although dont really need or want this flight

Any thoughts would be great.

The rule is: A Classic Flight Reward Itinerary must contain no more than one departure from the city or country of first departure on that Itinerary.
BA16 transits in SIN you can't depart SIN again.

 

[Jezza1222]

The rule is: A Classic Flight Reward Itinerary must contain no more than one departure from the city or country of first departure on that Itinerary.
BA16 transits in SIN you can't depart SIN again.

I did a trial run. BA16 was fine.. the second stopover in BNE wasn't ..Back to Sydney than Singapore worked

 

[jeza]

I did a trial run. BA16 was fine.. the second stopover in BNE wasn't ..Back to Sydney than Singapore worked

You don't have to finish in the place you started, it will however count those miles (SYD-SIN) as part of the 35K max.

 

[Matt_01]

I was going to make some changes to a booking last night and when looking at the taxes I noticed 2 carrier charges on the JL flight. Has JL recently added any additional carrier fees or fuel fines. In Apr this year the JL taxes for MEL-NRT AUD120 per PAX, I have since changed this booking. Last night when looking to change a sector the CC agent was advising that the QF systems were pricing NRT-KUL with JL as an additional AUD295.50 and it was repricing the whole journey AKL-BNE-HND (QF)-KUL-PER (MH) from AUD244 to AUD539. I understand that every time I change the itinerary the ticket will reprice however AUD300 seems high for JL

 

[Jezza1222]

You don't have to finish in the place you started, it will however count those miles (SYD-SIN) as part of the 35K max.

lol, I dont really want to go back to sydney, I guess if I booked a transit in Brisbane, I would have to get off for customs and not get on the Sydney flight ?

 

[Matt_01]

@Jezza1222 I cannot think why that plan would not work as you would not be rechecking luggage you would just be treated as a no show.

 

[Jezza1222]

thanks everyone for your help.

One last question. Can i use a PNR that has someone else on it, that wont be doing the rest of the trip? Ie they are just on it for the Singapore to Brisbane initial leg? No separation option is coming up,?

 

[BriarFlyer]

No, that PNR is for 2 pax and has to remain so unless you separate. If you're going to have to call to add the bookings, then step one will be separating the 2 pax onto separate PNRs.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I did a trial run. BA16 was fine.. the second stopover in BNE wasn't ..Back to Sydney than Singapore worked

Yes… as a single through flight the BA16 is counted a one sector. No transits are calculated or accrued.

 

[Jezza1222]

One last question, hopefully, if one on my legs on a RTW award trip is qantas and in economy, If i request an upgrade, will the points required to upgrade be part of the 318000 or seperate. Thanks heaps

 

[DC3]

One last question, hopefully, if one on my legs on a RTW award trip is qantas and in economy, If i request an upgrade, will the points required to upgrade be part of the 318000 or seperate. Thanks heaps

Award seats are not upgradable to another cabin class, other than finding new seat availability and rebooking that flight.

 

[Matt_01]

Award seats are not upgradable to another cabin class, other than finding new seat availability and rebooking that flight.

I thought QF changed this a few years back and made it possible to upgrade rewards seats. I found the link on the QF site. Use points classic upgrade rewards the FAQ and calculator suggest it is possible.

 

[muppet]

One last question, hopefully, if one on my legs on a RTW award trip is qantas and in economy, If i request an upgrade, will the points required to upgrade be part of the 318000 or seperate. Thanks heaps

It will be separate if processed as an upgrade (i.e. you wait for a SMS telling you’re in business).

If you find availability before you depart and manage to get it reticketed (risky with current call centre) then it will be included.

 

[cathalm8]

Hi guys I booked a business rewards flight with Qatar for later this month and I need to add an infant (no seat) to the booking. Should I call qantas to add or call Qatar instead? cheers

 

[sqrt()]

If anyone is trying to get an xAU itinerary in the next two months...

Just found some U availability on QF35 MEL-SIN on 28/07/22.

Now to add every other sector!

Edit: also looks like U availability on 21/7, 4/8, 11/8, 18/8, 21/8...

 

[sqrt()]

If anyone is trying to get an xAU itinerary in the next two months...

Just found some U availability on QF35 MEL-SIN on 28/07/22.

Now to add every other sector!

Edit: also looks like U availability on 21/7, 4/8, 11/8, 18/8, 21/8...

Called this 131313 this morning (~15 min wait) and got almost all the way through adding the following flights to QF35 on the 28th of July. Call dropped and went to the dreaded customer survey. Agent called me right after but I missed it and she didn't call again.

Called this afternoon (~20 min wait) and spent ~45m on the line with another agent. Ran through the added sectors. After a bit of back and forth with the QFF people re: points, taxes were paid and the points have apparently been deducted (though haven't updated on my end). Now waiting for the e-ticket.

Very lucky with two compentent agents today (touch wood as I haven't seen an e-ticket yet).

The CX flights are a bit sus, so I might try to change them to QR. Also may try add a BOS-LAX-JFK leg around Christmas as I have one more stopover and 8000km extra available, though AA transcon U availability sucks.

QF435	28-Jul​	SYD	MEL	10:30​	12:05​	U
QF35	28-Jul​	MEL	SIN	16:35​	22:45​	U
MH614	01-Aug​	SIN	KUL	11:30​	12:30​	U
MH780	01-Aug​	KUL	BKK	17:45​	18:55​	U
AY144	01-Aug​	BKK	HEL	21:30​	5:50​	U
AY1339	01-Aug​	HEL	LHR	19:30​	20:40​	U
BA239	16-Aug​	LHR	BOS	20:05​	22:30​	U
CX811	27-May-23​	BOS	HKG	1:45​	5:00​	U
CX101	30-May-23​	HKG	SYD	23:55​	10:50​	U

 

[kctt]

Hello everyone
I finally save enough QFF points for 3 Business OWA tickets after almost 10 years collection from credit card signup.
I'm going to travel with my parents to Europe and Canada/USA East coast.
This will be our lifetime trip. First time on a business class flight ever.
I have read from page 500 to the last page. There is a a lot of useful info here.

From my test search, i cannot find any business reward flight to Europe via Doha on QR flight or on the way back. I see many booked trips have Doha in the itinerary. Comments in last few pages suggest QR business reward flight is very limited. What is my chance to book 3 business seats (J Class?) on QR flight just to get from Sydney to somewhere in Europe or on the way back?

I find some J seats available on JAL from Sydney to Tokyo/Osaka and onward to a European city but there is none available on the way back on JAL from European city to Sydney for entire calendar in 2023. Does that mean ticket is already snapped up or ticket is not released yet?

I'm a Bronze QFF member. Will that affect availability of JAL J class seats for me?

A few years ago i even dream about splitting OWA to 2 trips with a long stopover in Japan or Singapore but currently i think it's not worth the trouble. After all, OWA is limited to 5 stops and 35K Miles. If my OWA trip can max out 5 stops then i already take full advantage of OWA. Slight disadvantage is i cannot travel too long so days in each destination are less. I don't have a lot of money to burn for a few weeks accommodation in each major stop anyway.
Sorry for the long post and many questions.
Thank you in advanced.