The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

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N860CR said:
This seems surprisingly low. There can’t be many in this age group, I’d imagine most are in ages care facilities, and they’ve been eligible for about 6 months now.
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Well as of last Monday just under half of residents in 24 hour disability care facilities supposed to be fully vaccinated by the Federal Govt outsourced providers - still have not received their first dose.

They are part of Priority Group 1A and were supposed to be fully vaccinated with Pfizer by Week 6. However the Federal Govt decided to not proceed and there were zero done by early May.

For just under half still not to have received their first is more of an indictment of the Minister who admitted it was not a good result after undetaking to make them the 'absolute top priority' in late May.

Victim blaming is never a good solution.

With the Aged Care Facilities - the sad fact is that typically every week someone, or more, dies. Someone new takes their place. The Federal Govt had no plan for any follow-up visits. When the private sector companies attended the second time - they did not adminster any 1st doses as they were not contracted to do that!
 
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I earlier posted this in the Vaccination personal accounts thread, but it was suggested this was a better home for further discussion, if any:

dairyfloss said:
Greg Hunt has recently announced that we have delivered over 201,000 vaccines to people in Australia, yesterday. That's pretty massive at the equivalent of 1.4M for 7 days! This is 5.5% of the Total Population in a week, and that's without the walk-ups, the pharmacies and having AZ ready to go in the mass vax hubs (NSW only?), all of which are only just getting underway now / very soon.

Some back of the envelope calculations, and not even allowing for that gearing up in delivery and the boost to PZ that's meant to be coming, suggests that it would be quite possible to fully vaccinate 80% of the total population before the year is out; not just to offer them all a first shot. Timing of shots aside, and also ignoring hesitancy or brand preference, I estimate it would take about 18.5 weeks to deliver the necessary 26 million doses to do this.

Numbers (based off SMH vax tracker), for those who wish to play at home:

Total Population = 25,693,059 / and 80% of Total Pop. = 20,554,447

Total People Fully Vaccinated (at today) = 3,544,484
Total People with 1st dose only (at today) =8,049,282

Total doses remaining to be delivered in arms* = 25,970,644
Yesterday's rate of delivery = 201,000 doses / 1,407,000 per week
Weeks to deliver doses = 18.5

*This remaining doses number was calculated by taking 80% of the population, less those who are fully vaccinated, multiplied by 2 (doses), then less the number of the single dose population.

Now, very optimistic to think we'll have 80% fully vaccinated by the 1st week of December - I realise - but we need a bit of that right now, don't we?

Cheers,
Matt.
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mviy said:
95 percent of over 70s is an unrealistic target. A nice aspirational goal, but all you need is over 5% of anti-vaxxers in that age group and it becomes unattainable.
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I wonder how many hard core anti Vaxxers there actually are. They are very loud and seem a lot but once there are penalties, I reckon the fringe dwellers will get vaccinated. In Canberra 95% of children are vaccinated and some of that is due to the childcare subsidy penalty if they don’t.
 
Well I should have said only need 5% who are either anti-vax or won't get vaccinated for other reasons. It's a nice aspirational goal, but these people have been eligible for vaccination for nearly the entire rollout and we still only have 78.2% with a first dose let alone a second, despite this group comprising most of those at serious risk of dying from the virus. 95% is a nice aspirational goal, but setting a target of 95% of that group as a hard obstacle for opening up is a plan to not open up. In say September let that group have Pfizer or Moderna and come November or December if they still haven't had it they've had plenty of opportunity and should be allowed to take the risk to their health that they have chosen to take and can't blame a lack of availability of a preferred vaccine. We don't force people to have medical treatment against their will in this country.
 
mviy said:
Well I should have said only need 5% who are either anti-vax or won't get vaccinated for other reasons. It's a nice aspirational goal, but these people have been eligible for vaccination for nearly the entire rollout and we still only have 78.2% with a first dose let alone a second, despite this group comprising most of those at serious risk of dying from the virus. 95% is a nice aspirational goal, but setting a target of 95% of that group as a hard obstacle for opening up is a plan to not open up. In say September let that group have Pfizer or Moderna and come November or December if they still haven't had it they've had plenty of opportunity and should be allowed to take the risk to their health that they have chosen to take and can't blame a lack of availability of a preferred vaccine. We don't force people to have medical treatment against their will in this country.
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95% is high - nice to get to and we can hope but it shouldn’t delay opening up.
 
When today's numbers are released tomorrow we should reach or be very close to 40% of 16+ population having had a first dose. Considering the group of 16+ with the lowest vaccination rates includes the 16-17 year olds who can't vote surely the tide of public opinion in favour of lockdowns etc. has to start changing.
 
mviy said:
Well I should have said only need 5% who are either anti-vax or won't get vaccinated for other reasons. It's a nice aspirational goal, but these people have been eligible for vaccination for nearly the entire rollout and we still only have 78.2% with a first dose let alone a second, despite this group comprising most of those at serious risk of dying from the virus. 95% is a nice aspirational goal, but setting a target of 95% of that group as a hard obstacle for opening up is a plan to not open up. In say September let that group have Pfizer or Moderna and come November or December if they still haven't had it they've had plenty of opportunity and should be allowed to take the risk to their health that they have chosen to take and can't blame a lack of availability of a preferred vaccine. We don't force people to have medical treatment against their will in this country.
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Today NSW authorities talked about this - strongly recommending over 70s get Astra Zeneca now/ASAP.

It will be a strong case of gentle persuasion, because we all are aware of the Astra Zeneca hesitancy, now vaccine urgency etc etc etc. People make up their minds at different points and some won't shift.

I personally think after Pfizer priority for those under pregnancy 1b (and critical workers in the 8 LGA in NSW), just wheel around to the over 80s, then over 70s, etc. It won't happen, but I think it would be worthwhile.

The 95% of over70/80s is not even close to being official government policy best I can tell.
 
bcworld said:
Yup. Would like to see this happen proactively...rather than when it might be needed reactively.
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It’s more QLD that is miles behind. Victoria had their big hubs up and running faster than anyone and they had AZ in them.
 
Must...Fly! said:
The GP can enjoy the medicare audit and the consequences that follow :)
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I don’t think it’s quite as bad as made out. They’re charging people who don’t have Medicare for a consult. If an Australian citizen went, the consult would be bulk billed. Still doesn’t sit right, but I don’t think it’s quite the scam being made out.
 
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If we're serious about herd immunity it must be ~80%. With possible varying criteria for certain age groups.

Those hoping for like 60% want it only so they can take their selfish, sorry personal OS travel plans.

We need a useful not convenient target & to hit it to be relatively safe, that is afterall the crux of the vaccination circus.
 
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