Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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Quite a large number of people in home quarantine from the MCG exposure will start coming due for their day 13 tests.
 
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SydneySwan said:
Only one person of my social circle is worried about catching COVID and he is immuno-compromised. I still don’t know anyone personally who has had it in Australia although several members of my family in the UK have and two elderly relatives died. Here we are all vaccinated and not expecting to catch it. We take the normal precautions (mask wearing, etc.) and follow the rules. We live in a part of Sydney that has hardly any cases.

When COVID comes up in conversation the main topics are:

Current Sydney lockdown and when is it going to finish
Incompetence of Federal Govt, especially Morrison and Colbeck - many of my circle have relatives in aged care.
Inability to travel overseas
State border closures - whatever happened to Australia?
i want my old life back

Last year the main discussion focus was being thankful we are in Australia but that has completely changed and many now express the view that they wish they were in Europe or the US. Generally though we talk less and less about the pandemic and more about family, sports, work, etc.
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I do know of two who have had it in the first wave and as men in their forties they were quite unwell and one needed hospital treatment. Main issue being very high fever and headache but then people with true flu have similar experiences. My SIL in her 70's is desperately worried about getting it, she's in Perth and a couple in their sixties who were frequent travellers but now they say they won't be flying in a plane until the threat of covid is over. Oh well. We are frustrated with border closures and restrictions but not concerned now of getting covid.
 
I had a colleague who contracted COVID during Melb second wave. I don't know for sure but I would say she is early 50s. As far as I know she was not hospitalised but it was rough. Suffered from 'long covid' issues - longer term fatigue, struggles going for a long walk etc.
 
Pushka said:
I do know of two who have had it in the first wave and as men in their forties they were quite unwell and one needed hospital treatment. Main issue being very high fever and headache but then people with true flu have similar experiences. My SIL in her 70's is desperately worried about getting it, she's in Perth and a couple in their sixties who were frequent travellers but now they say they won't be flying in a plane until the threat of covid is over. Oh well. We are frustrated with border closures and restrictions but not concerned now of getting covid.
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The only one in our extended family (ie across AU and UK) has had Covid, and that was caught in US. All of our close family in UK know someone who has had it, unlike in AU where noone has indicated they no someone who has caught it here. So virus spread in AU, and in both NSW & VIC over last 18mths, does not seem to have same impact as UK end of the family.
 
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In my social and work circles, most of whom are folks in their 40s - but some above and below that line - there is zero talk of health concerns from the virus. We’re a mix of vaccinated and not (though all appear to be trying), various cultures and backgrounds, and probably 3/4 of them have kids, including myself. We all just want things open again; international and domestic borders in particular. I have no doubts that all of these people are very compliant to the rules, even though the majority are in areas with only a handful of cases from day dot, but it can only play out like this for so long. If the ever referenced ‘vast majority of people’ do the right thing and it makes little difference due to the few who don’t, it’s a hard sell to maintain that resolve.

Cheers,
Matt.
 
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'It will be alleged the group was travelling together'. So less of a crime if they travelled individually? A few weeks in the Re-education Centre at Howard Springs will sort them out.

What sort of country have we become?

We have just replaced the picture of the Queen on our living room wall with one of Gladys just in case the fuzz come knocking.
 
Given what we have learnt in the major outbreaks, one has to wonder if a key goal is to suppress the spread of coronavirus and especially when any outbreak occurs, why every jurisdiction has not moved to prioritise after the most high risk groups (health workers, HQ workers, the over 70's etc), the essential worker group (and by that I mean workers that HAVE TO WORK in a lockdown to keep us all fed and supplied and not those that would just want to work. ie construction).

At present we have say vaccinated too many office workers, who can work from home in a lockdown (or even permanently or on say a roster of 2 days per week in the office, and 3 days at home), over say meat workers, delivery drivers, food supply chain, supermarket worker, petrol station staff etc who we need to keep working. This strategy has made us vulnerable in any major outbreak.

It is well past the the time that with any Pfizer doses that they are issued just to an age band that we had moved to. It still needs to be more focused Australia wide for I would imagine at least the next 2 months, and quite possibly 3 months.

With AZ it can remain much broader as we have the supply, and now also a broad pool of vaccinators if we use pharmacies etc..
 
There has been a lot of press about the Qlink hostie who worked for about a week with delta symptoms, but nothing about the huge wave of covid you'd expect her to have started. Qld goes on each day with zero cases. The two don't seem to marry up...
 
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There has been a lot of press about the Qlink hostie who worked for about a week with delta symptoms, but nothing about the huge wave of covid you'd expect her to have started. Qld goes on each day with zero cases. The two don't seem to marry up...
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While that is good news, I feel the inconsistencies are sometimes taken by some states as indicative of the behaviours in others.

As we know, there are certainly actions governments can undertake to minimise the risk of spread, however once you do those things it is then all down to luck.
 
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There has been a lot of press about the Qlink hostie who worked for about a week with delta symptoms, but nothing about the huge wave of covid you'd expect her to have started. Qld goes on each day with zero cases. The two don't seem to marry up...
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Luck plays a big part as most people are not spreaders. ie BBQ Man in Sydney with Delta only infected his wife.

If we look at the current Victorian twin outbreak (ie had two different initial seeds) we can see that:
  • Only 22% of cases have infected another person
  • 3% of cases created 50% of the transmissions
  • Two thirds of cases infected no one
So the Qlink FA may just be in the 8 in 10 people that do not tend to infect anyone.


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About time. I posted a while back how this creates havoc with internal air pressures and hence how aerosols will float out through doors etc.

This should be really be so in true HQ though where transmission risk is so much higher.

One could argue though that a group with no cases like NRL is probably too strict though. I suspect that NRL is in part due the optics, and yes rule breaking.
 
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^^^ There is always a delay in reporting new cases, given the time gap between testing and a positive result.
That is why the 7 day average is a key statistic.
Have patience grasshopper.
 
Still too many people moving about.
Stuff the liberties, it’s time for the Feds to come over the top and force people to stay home.
 
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^^^ There is always a delay in reporting new cases, given the time gap between testing and a positive result.
That is why the 7 day average is a key statistic.
Have patience grasshopper.
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And yes, quite a number at both the MCG and at AAMI Park have taken many days to test positive.
 
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