Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[lovetravellingoz]

Sewage detections a long way from Sydney.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1408020549490511878

Plus in that Exposure Site update is a Platinum First Gym for a 2 hour period.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Update on the mystery cases

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NSW Health concerned by another mystery covid diagnosis in Double Bay hairdresser, bringing unlinked case total to 3​

Health authorities still don’t know how a hairdresser at a top Sydney salon caught coronavirus as the business remains closed for deep cleaning.

“There is a hairdresser from Western Sydney who works in Double Bay and he is not linked to any known case or cluster,” NSW chief health officer Dr Kerry Chant said.

“We have not been able to establisthe initial chain of transmission for the hairdresser”, she added.

It is now one of three cases where health officials have been unable to find a “any clear link” to how they contracted coronavirus.

The other two are a nine-year-old student at St Charles’ Catholic Primary School and a patient at a health facility.

Concern over hairdresser mystery case

Health authorities still don’t know how a hairdresser at a top Sydney salon caught coronavirus as the business remains closed for deep cleaning.

www.news.com.au

Wouldn't Limo man make it 4 unlinked cases?

Now yes I know they suspect it was linked to the aircrew, but there is no actual genomic link. However a serology test may have suggested when he became infected and thus increased their confidence of that being the epidemiological link.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Well "official " confirmation late today than the pandemic is of concern in Double Bay....

 

[bcworld]

Well "official " confirmation late today than the pandemic is of concern in Double Bay....

To be fair...hasn't the delta variant been associated with gastro type symptoms?

 

[bcworld]

I'm sure the people of Double Bay were horrified!

 

[jakeseven7]

I'm sure the people of Double Bay were horrified!

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Doubt anyone in Double Bay would set foot in a Michel’s Patisserie anyway

 

[serfty]

Ha probs. The AZ vax is better than the Pfizer one at the Delta variant ...

Do you have a indicative reference for that?

 

[jakeseven7]

Do you have a indicative reference for that?

My bad - wrong variant protection I was referring to... AZ and Pfizer are both equally good at Delta variant protection with statistically insignificant protection differences.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Nine news have now confirmed:

Vaccinated hospital workers avoid COVID-19 infection​

Four Bankstown Hospital workers who were among 30 guests at a West Hoxton birthday party likely dodged getting infected with COVID because they were fully vaccinated.​

Nothing said about the others who may have been vaccinated, nor on the actual vaccine or vaccines used.

The earlier press conference had stated that they were vaccinated, but had not indicated if that was fully vaccinated or not.

 

[justinbrett]

Wouldn't Limo man make it 4 unlinked cases?

Now yes I know they suspect it was linked to the aircrew, but there is no actual genomic link. However a serology test may have suggested when he became infected and thus increased their confidence of that being the epidemiological link.

Last I heard it was an exact match to a US case, which is consistent with aircrew transmission as they could test negative but develop enough to pass it on later in their transit. That's not my conjecture, that's exactly what Kerry Chant said.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Doubt anyone in Double Bay would set foot in a Michel’s Patisserie anyway

My eldest daughter lives in Double Bay during the week.
Her check-ins would never include one of those
She’s a regular at Indigo, Matteo and Tottis in Bondi although assures me that she has never been to any of them at the times on the NSW website.
Her and her flatmate have gone to be swabbed just in case though.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Last I heard it was an exact match to a US case, which is consistent with aircrew transmission as they could test negative but develop enough to pass it on later in their transit. That's not my conjecture, that's exactly what Kerry Chant said.

Yes that is my understanding as well.

"That strain does not match anything that's been uploaded in Australia at this time," Dr Chant said.​

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"But it does match perfectly a sequence that's been uploaded from the US so that fits with that plausible hypothesis."​

So we are agreed then that there is no actual direct genomic link to of the driver to one of the aircrew and so they are going with the overall epidemiology as I indicated. And a serology test may have provided greater confidence for them that he became infected at about the time the aircrew visited. So I would be confident that they would have performed one.

And all clusters in NSW have the same genetic sequence as Limo Man, but not all have been able to be linked to an exact person.


This also what I have regularly posted with the recent clusters in Victoria. Though there are two Genomic Sequences and Strains in play.


Case 5 in Victoria ( the source of the Whittlesea Cluster) they know came from Wollert Man, who caught it in SA HQ from one person who caught it off another person in the SA HQ process. Case 5 was symptomatic for 12 days before he was told to test. But while they do know that they still do not know which person, or persons, connected Wollert Man to Case 5. So to myself Case 5 also is still unlinked to a direct case.

Likewise In Victoria while the original genomic source is known for each of the Whittlesea Cluster, Queensland Cluster, Southbank Cluster, Arcare Maidstone Cluster and West Melbourne Clusters(Delta), each all remain gnomically linked to an exact person.


The latest "Drycleaning Cluster" identified today is epidemiologically linked to the Hoxton Park Party, and will most likely soon have a genomic link to the Bondi Party Guest.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I'm sure the people of Double Bay were horrified!

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Shades of Woolworths Epping, and Woolworths Epping North...

 

[Ric]

Looks like Pfizer is also being dealt a blow by the Delta variant?

Israel faces fresh Covid surge and calls for teens to be jabbed

Israel recorded 125 new cases on Monday - the most per day since April, in a country where more than half the population has been fully vaccinated. Nearly a third were found in vaccinated people.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[hydrabyss]

I think that this particular outbreak in Sydney will make or break Gladys/scomo's "light touch" approach.

I really do want to see it succeed, but time will tell (hopefully sooner rather than later).

Every time Sydney gets and outbreak there is always this discussion about lockdowns but each time they get on top of it. Maybe this time will be different but considering this virus has no plans to disappear anytime soon you have to have a long term approach that allows you to manage it.

 

[Pushka]

Looks like Pfizer is also being dealt a blow by the Delta variant?

Israel faces fresh Covid surge and calls for teens to be jabbed

Israel recorded 125 new cases on Monday - the most per day since April, in a country where more than half the population has been fully vaccinated. Nearly a third were found in vaccinated people.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Isn't that more a function of young adults not being vaccinated yet? Same as what is happening in UK. Too early in the roll out for any majority of young people to be fully vaccinated.

 

[justinbrett]

Yes that is my understanding as well.

"That strain does not match anything that's been uploaded in Australia at this time," Dr Chant said.​

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"But it does match perfectly a sequence that's been uploaded from the US so that fits with that plausible hypothesis."​

So we are agreed then that there is no actual direct genomic link to of the driver to one of the aircrew and so they are going with the overall epidemiology. And a serology test may have provided greater confidence for them that he became infected at about the time the aircrew visited. So I would be confident that they would have performed one.


Case 5 in Victoria ( the source of the Whittlesea Cluster) they know came from Wollert Man, who caught it in SA HQ from one person who caught it off another person in the SA HQ process. Case 5 was symptomatic for 12 days before he was told to test.

But while they do know that they still do not know which person, or persons, connected Wollert Man to Case 5. So to myself Case 5 also is still unlinked to a direct case, though they do have an epidemiological link to Wollert Man.

In Victoria while the original genomic source is known in each case the Whittlesea Cluster, Queensland Cluster, Southbank Cluster, Arcare Maidstone Cluster and West Melbourne Cluster(Delta) also all remain unlinked to an exact person.

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I think the evidence proves beyond reasonable doubt the driver caught it off one of the aircrew members.

I don't know what the medical definition of "unlinked case" is, but NSW report on unknown sources, not unlinked cases. This is not an unknown source.

 

[Lynda2475]

but had not indicated if that was fully vaccinated or not

Untrue it was mentioned by Dr Chant yesterday, and i mentioned it yesterday. More likely to be Pfizer given health workers and timing.

 

[Pushka]

I think the evidence proves beyond reasonable doubt the driver caught it off one of the aircrew members.

I don't know what the medical definition of "unlinked case" is, but NSW report on unknown sources, not unlinked cases. This is not an unknown source.

So now the driver is saying he caught it from someone in a cafe as he didn't work the suggested days and he was regularly tested and he was concerned about AZ due to family history of blood clots. If he's been tested then his Medicare record will show that. He was not vaccinated.

 

[bcworld]

So now the driver is saying he caught it from someone in a cafe as he didn't work the suggested days and he was regularly tested and he was concerned about AZ due to family history of blood clots. If he's been tested then his Medicare record will show that. He was not vaccinated.

I doubt a medicare record would show the results of rapid tests...which is what he was supposed to get daily...there is presumably no pathology element.