Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[bcworld]

Imagine if every state acts like NSW, we all would probably gone overseas by now.

I doubt that. They can call it what they want but the federal government has an elimination policy (not suppression). If they don't why do we have the most draconian travel restrictions of any democratic nation?

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Though having a party, or other social gathering. is not a fault or problem unless the attendees breached the then rules, and also if they lied about matters afterwards.

Well there's rules...and then the asking nicely to do the right thing approach...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1407899429244334082

 

[RooFlyer]

As i've said before, I've taken my eye off the covid ball due to being safely nestled here in Tas. But I'm hoping to go to and from SA via Vic in a week, so have been checking up on various 'zones' - esp wrt getting back into Tas. I was surprised therefore to see Tullamaraine T4 on the Tasmanian recent high risk list (never mind their obsession with the dry cleaners!). Does that sound right? I haven't heard anyone else declaring the airport high risk.



Tasmania still allows transit through high risk areas, wexcept if the part of the airport is itself declared high risk. SO I assume you can't use Jetstar, REX or some Virgin out of MEL???

 

[bcworld]

I was surprised therefore to see Tullamaraine T4 on the Tasmanian recent high risk list (never mind their obsession with the dry cleaners!). Does that sound right? I haven't heard anyone else declaring the airport high risk.

Well this is the arrival of the case that came from Sydney on Sunday. Based on what are seeing so far from NSW Health though I would not expect to see them list the SYD Domestic terminal as an exposure site.

Listed as Tier 2 site by Vic:

 

[RooFlyer]

Thanks. Yet another reason, if any is needed, to avoid Jetstar (crosses fingers).

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I was surprised therefore to see Tullamaraine T4 on the Tasmanian recent high risk list (never mind their obsession with the dry cleaners!).

The case in Melbourne today who flew in then. The case reported:

Late Tuesday he started to show symptoms, and got tested on Wednesday.​

They normally assume that people are infectious for up to 3 days prior to being symptomatic (when they are symptomatic). So that takes in his flight and the airport.

 

[MelMel]

The Victorian man attended the party in West Hoxton - it was at his daughter’s home

 

[lovetravellingoz]

The Victorian man attended the party in West Hoxton - it was at his daughter’s home

Today's Vic DHHS Report is now out. Salient extract below

New cases of COVID-19 notified today​

Victorian public health officials were notified today of two new cases of COVID-19 linked to a Victorian resident who recently returned from NSW. These new cases will be reported in tomorrow's numbers.​

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The first case is a man in his 60s who attended a social event at his daughter's house in West Hoxton last Saturday, which was at the time a Sydney green zone, and then returned to Melbourne on a Jetstar flight (flight number JQ523 that departed Sydney at 5.30pm) on Sunday evening. The flight landed at Melbourne Airport Tullamarine at 7.05pm at Terminal 4.​

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He developed symptoms late on Tuesday night at his home in Oakleigh, where he lives alone, and was tested on Wednesday. He is currently unwell and is being supported by public health officials. He lives within an apartment complex and a risk assessment is being undertaken. Support will be provided to other residents by the public health team.​

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Primary close contacts of the case are being identified and contacted and a workplace exposure site linked to this case, a dry-cleaning business in Sandringham, has been identified and posted online.​

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This case's only workplace close contact has received notification of a positive test late this afternoon. His family has been isolated and are being tested, and urgent public health actions are underway to understand the case's movements.​

 

[Lynda2475]

The Victorian man attended the party in West Hoxton - it was at his daughter’s home

Interesting. The positive case who attended the party tested positive on Monday and the other guests were notified by Tuesday morning, so would be hard for the daughter to claim she didnt know her Dad attended, and didnt tell him to get tested on Tuesday.

 

[jakeseven7]

The Victorian man attended the party in West Hoxton - it was at his daughter’s home

Wow wonder why the tracing delay then... someone lie?

It’s funny because this AM Dr Chant said the super spreader party had been very helpful and transparent... hmmm clearly not THAT helpful!

 

[aikman]

This dry cleaner outbreak better not cause another border closure to Victorians. It's not fair especially when the virus came from interstate on both occasions.

 

[Princess Fiona]

The Victorian man attended the party in West Hoxton - it was at his daughter’s home

This dry cleaner outbreak better not cause another border closure to Victorians. It's not fair especially when the virus came from interstate on both occasions.

Sadly the virus doesn’t know or care about state borders.
If it doesn’t come from interstate, it would come from HQ.

The sooner we all get vaccinated in every state, territory and country the better.
I don’t see any other way out of this.
Anyone on the fence or waiting until there is “more research” has got rocks in their head IMHO.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Wow wonder why the tracing delay then... someone lie?

Multiple people it would seem. I wonder who else may have been at the party? And if all attendees had the same story on who attended? Or even how accurate their non-party contact lists are?

One can presume that everyone will get re-interviewed now.

This dry cleaner outbreak better not cause another border closure to Victorians. It's not fair especially when the virus came from interstate on both occasions.

Though the drycleaner brought it back. Though when he flew it was not known, but he is most likely to have known before he got tested and should have advised authorities. However it could have been tracked down 2 days earlier. This could be very important if anyone on the flight was infected, and with his boss, as all could potentially have become infectious in the interim.

We will have to wait and see if he is in 20% or 80% cohort.

 

[33kft]

The sooner we all get vaccinated in every state, territory and country the better.

Unfortunately there is an absolutely massive cohort between 1 and 39 years old who may not. I don't care much about those who may but haven't or won't, provided they make way for those who want to.

 

[nutwood]

As i've said before, I've taken my eye off the covid ball due to being safely nestled here in Tas. But I'm hoping to go to and from SA via Vic in a week, so have been checking up on various 'zones' - esp wrt getting back into Tas.

Watch those flights. I'm off to SA on Sunday (ex LST), back Friday (into HBA). I'm all booked but there's been some talk of a changed schedule so I was looking at the options. I was surprised at how tight it has got since I booked. I'm also paying more for a car than Rydges!

 

[RooFlyer]

Watch those flights. I'm off to SA on Sunday (ex LST), back Friday (into HBA). I'm all booked but there's been some talk of a changed schedule so I was looking at the options. I was surprised at how tight it has got since I booked. I'm also paying more for a car than Rydges!

Ta. I'm flying the day before my first event (Rockford tasting) and two days before the major one (Henschke lunch), so I've built in a bit of flexibility Rental car booked ages ago (for 10 days), so price quite OK.

 

[jakeseven7]

Multiple people it would seem. I wonder who else may have been at the party? And if all attendees had the same story on who attended? Or even how accurate their non-party contact lists are?

One can presume that everyone will get re-interviewed now.


Though the drycleaner brought it back. Though when he flew it was not known, but he is most likely to have known before he got tested and should have advised authorities. However it could have been tracked down 2 days earlier. This could be very important if anyone on the flight was infected, and with his boss, as all could potentially have become infectious in the interim.

We will have to wait and see if he is in 20% or 80% cohort.

I have a sneaking suspicion/ hypothesis that they lied so the guy could get back to Melbourne, perhaps they were not quite across the border closures (at that point in time) being LGA focussed or something and panicked and lied to NSW Health about the attendees thinking no one would find out... anyway all speculation just seems a bit strange.

It’s either that or a contact tracing fail.

Let’s hope they haven’t lied about an Uncle from Brisbane or an Aunt from Cairns attending as well!

 

[jakeseven7]

Many memes and tweets about the messy number reporting, thought this would cheer some people up

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I have a sneaking suspicion/ hypothesis that they lied so the guy could get back to Melbourne,

Well if mhen's timeline is correct
He flew back Sunday night.

From the below infectious attendee was asymptomatic. .....though Unbeknownst to the 30 guests at the party.
So if asymptomatic we assume that he was either directed to get tested, or they acted on one of the calls to get tested on Sunday. Perhaps the latter as there seems to be nothing indicating that he was a Westfield close contact. So they may or may not have mentioned that to their Saturday hosts on the Sunday. Plus we do not know when Sunday they may have been directed/decided to get tested.

Unbeknownst to the 30 guests at the party, one of the attendees worked at Bondi Westfield and was carrying the virus.​

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All are now isolating and have been tested.​

Chief Health Officer Dr Kerry Chant said the infectious attendee was asymptomatic.​

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“We got to this group very quickly,” she said.​

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“And that meant that they were basically infectious in the community for one day, probably, given that it takes about 24 hours to incubate.”​

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She said having 10 people test positive in such a short period of time (on Tuesday to 8pm) was concerning but said nobody was at fault.​

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So on balance may not have been aware when he flew. But yes by Tuesday probably should have been aware.

perhaps they were not quite across the border closures (at that point in time) being LGA focussed or something and panicked and lied to NSW Health about the attendees thinking no one would find out... anyway all speculation just seems a bit strange.​

It’s either that or a contact tracing fail.

Let’s hope they haven’t lied about an Uncle from Brisbane or an Aunt from Cairns attending as well!

Or about any of their close contacts post-party. They were being commended for all doing the right thing, which some or all obviously were not.

 

[jakeseven7]

Update on the mystery cases

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NSW Health concerned by another mystery covid diagnosis in Double Bay hairdresser, bringing unlinked case total to 3​

Health authorities still don’t know how a hairdresser at a top Sydney salon caught coronavirus as the business remains closed for deep cleaning.

“There is a hairdresser from Western Sydney who works in Double Bay and he is not linked to any known case or cluster,” NSW chief health officer Dr Kerry Chant said.

“We have not been able to establisthe initial chain of transmission for the hairdresser”, she added.

It is now one of three cases where health officials have been unable to find a “any clear link” to how they contracted coronavirus.

The other two are a nine-year-old student at St Charles’ Catholic Primary School and a patient at a health facility.

Concern over hairdresser mystery case

Health authorities still don’t know how a hairdresser at a top Sydney salon caught coronavirus as the business remains closed for deep cleaning.

www.news.com.au

 

[bcworld]

Sewage detections a long way from Sydney.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1408020549490511878