Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[N860CR]

Has the hospitalisation rate in Victoria increased dramatically?

Seems like a lot of hysteria if we’re simply pickup up asymptomatic cases by going door to door.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Has the hospitalisation rate in Victoria increased dramatically?

Seems like a lot of hysteria if we’re simply pickup up asymptomatic cases by going door to door.

They had 5 in hospital on the 27th June, none on a ventilator. Now they have 15 with 1 on a ventilator. Actual numbers tiny, but it’s still a 200% increase. I guess the idea is to clamp on it before they have hundreds in hospital, given how quickly it spreads.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

They had 5 in hospital on the 27th June, none on a ventilator. Now they have 15 with 1 on a ventilator. Actual numbers tiny, but it’s still a 200% increase. I guess the idea is to clamp on it before they have hundreds in hospital, given how quickly it spreads.

If one gets hundreds of new cases then some will land in hospital. There is a lag effect as most people do not get seriously ill immediately.

VIC HOSPITALISED
Cases in Hospital

DATE	HOSP	ICU	VENT
Fri 26 Jun	6	1	0
Sat 27 Jun	5	1	0
Sun 28 Jun	7	1	1
Mon 29 Jun	9	1	1
Tue 30 Jun	9	1	1
Wed 1 Jul	15	2	1
Thu 2 Jul	15	2	1

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Has the hospitalisation rate in Victoria increased dramatically?

Seems like a lot of hysteria if we’re simply pickup up asymptomatic cases by going door to door.

Not sure why you believe that the new cases are only asymptomatic cases.

In the hotspot suburbs yes people can now present for testing who have no symptoms. So yes one would expect that asymptomatic cases will have increased.
But testing is also easier to get and so no dount that is encouraging more people with symptoms to test as well.

In addition cases were ramping up before the new testing blitz began. This increase is what led to the blitz. We that plus the realisation that a lot of people on the hotspot areas who were likely to be infected were not presenting for testing including symptomatic people. Indeed many people are still refusing to be tested!




They are also testing all close cases of known new cases on day 11 I believe.

 

[dajop]

One thing that’s really bugging me in the context of the outbreak in Melbourne, is why do we require someone arriving in Australia from, for example, New Zealand, who probably has a low probably of having the virus, to serve out hotel quarantine, yet we trust those who have tested positive to self isolate at home?

 

[RooFlyer]

This sobering. I didn't realise the magnitude of the current outbreak in Melbourne compared to the first outbreak.

Charting the COVID-19 spread: Australia passes 10,000 coronavirus deaths

Australia has officially recorded more than 10,000 COVID deaths in total, with 4,000 of those recorded in Victoria. Here's what the latest data shows.

www.abc.net.au

 

[serfty]

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Doesn’t even need to be interstate. Mt Gambier used to have a few teams and the rivalry was fierce

Still do, Mt Gambier has four teams!

Gotta watch for those Cats supporters crossing the border from the East.

 

[get me outta here]

The Economist headline today :
“Black Lives Matter protests did not cause an uptick in covid-19 cases
Stay-at-home tendencies actually increased“.

 

[Pushka]

The Economist headline today :
“Black Lives Matter protests did not cause an uptick in covid-19 cases
Stay-at-home tendencies actually increased“.

Not for me. Tendencies is such a vague word for statistical purposes.

 

[get me outta here]

There is quite a good article that goes with it which has the various statistics.

Not for me. Tendencies is such a vague word for statistical purposes.

 

[33kft]

why do we require someone arriving in Australia from, for example, New Zealand, who probably has a low probably of having the virus, to serve out hotel quarantine, yet we trust those who have tested positive to self isolate at home?

Its more nuanced than that. The DHHS are putting those without the means to appropriately quarantine at home (such as those living with others or elderly family) in hotels as well. I know this because a local hotel recently notified on facebook that it had a block booking of rooms for DHHS for several months now for this purpose.

 

[drron]

There is quite a good article that goes with it which has the various statistics.

Except there is plenty of evidence to the contrary such as Texas which the MSM says the increase in case numbers is due to easing of lockdown provisions.Unfortunately for that theory the easing of lockdown began on April 17th and the number of cases per day was in a downtrend until June 1st when the increases became progressively larger especially after June 8th.I have posted these figures before.now George Floyd died on May 25th a week before the increase started and 14 days before the major increase.

Also I have posted about what is happening in NYC after the BLM protests.There contact tracers will not even ask if the person they are questioning attended a protest.So how can they possibly say that the protests had no effect I really don't know.

The real answer though is that the cause of rising case numbers in the USA is a combination of protests,easing lockdowns and people's stupidity.

 

[jase05]

More information coming to light in regards to the Security guards in Melbourne and it doesn’t paint a pretty picture. There are even allegations that guards were sleeping with quarantined people

 

[get me outta here]

I think there was some very unfortunate behaviour from the male guards towards the female quarantine women. Very bad. Hopefully everything will become clear in the longer term.

More information coming to light in regards to the Security guards in Melbourne and it doesn’t paint a pretty picture. There are even allegations that guards were sleeping with quarantined people

 

[get me outta here]

Well I’m not sure how that is evidence to the contrary. The article I posted is a portion of the information, it does not say that it is “contrary“ to everything else. As the American States all have different figures it needs to be looked at more closely than just a couple of overall dates.
Reading the full article generally helps rather than relying on a heading and subheading.

Except there is plenty of evidence to the contrary such as Texas which the MSM says the increase in case numbers is due to easing of lockdown provisions.Unfortunately for that theory the easing of lockdown began on April 17th and the number of cases per day was in a downtrend until June 1st when the increases became progressively larger especially after June 8th.I have posted these figures before.now George Floyd died on May 25th a week before the increase started and 14 days before the major increase.

Also I have posted about what is happening in NYC after the BLM protests.There contact tracers will not even ask if the person they are questioning attended a protest.So how can they possibly say that the protests had no effect I really don't know.

The real answer though is that the cause of rising case numbers in the USA is a combination of protests,easing lockdowns and people's stupidity.

 

[jase05]

I think there was some very unfortunate behaviour from the male guards towards the female quarantine women. Very bad. Hopefully everything will become clear in the longer term.

Yep, allegations also of falsifying time sheets and that hotels were actually understaffed aswell as one whistle blower saying his company gave them 5 minutes of training in the car park next door beforehand and supplied them all with only 1 pair of gloves and 1 mask. Sounds like a real mess

 

[Pushka]

More information coming to light in regards to the Security guards in Melbourne and it doesn’t paint a pretty picture. There are even allegations that guards were sleeping with quarantined people

That rumour has been alluded to previously here. . Disgraceful.

 

[p--and--t]

Except there is plenty of evidence to the contrary such as Texas which the MSM says the increase in case numbers is due to easing of lockdown provisions.Unfortunately for that theory the easing of lockdown began on April 17th and the number of cases per day was in a downtrend until June 1st when the increases became progressively larger especially after June 8th.I have posted these figures before.now George Floyd died on May 25th a week before the increase started and 14 days before the major increase.

Also I have posted about what is happening in NYC after the BLM protests.There contact tracers will not even ask if the person they are questioning attended a protest.So how can they possibly say that the protests had no effect I really don't know.

The real answer though is that the cause of rising case numbers in the USA is a combination of protests,easing lockdowns and people's stupidity.

Not sure what happened in Texas has to do with what happened in Australia.

There was not rampant contagion in Australia, we had had wide spread testing and very low cases. From reports every single protester in Melbourne was offered a mask and hand sanitiser and anyone with any symptoms at all was asked not to attend.

I don't think anything that is happening/has happened in the US has any correlation to what is happening/has happened in Australia

 

[VPS]

Still do, Mt Gambier has four teams!

Gotta watch for those Cats supporters crossing the border from the East.

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Every time I blink they've changed leagues down there.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Northern Territory has its first case in some time. Someone returned from overseas and quarantined in a hotel in Melbourne. On release stayed with family in a hotspot. Then travelled to NT and felt unwell and has now tested positive.