Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[flychrisfly]

This is a good laugh trying to get it to line up on the qantas site. Had this work SYD-HKG-MAN-LHR-JFK-YVR-LAX-SLC-SYD 280k changed an earlier date, came to the LAX-SLC again and it blew up saying too many browser refreshes. Went back and ran the previous dates and it blew up again. Had this work/not work on a few different itineraries. Always blows a gasket on the South American leg.

Confusing! I think you mean SCL, as SLC is Salt Lake City

 

[soh]

Does anyone have any experience with changing the flight times or dates of sectors after taking the first flight? No change to the route or carrier but there may be an opportunity to push some dates out. Is there a link to the QF terms & conditions that would allow this? Easy to do over live chat with the usual 5k per person fee in J?

 

[rock86]

Does anyone have any experience with changing the flight times or dates of sectors after taking the first flight? No change to the route or carrier but there may be an opportunity to push some dates out. Is there a link to the QF terms & conditions that would allow this? Easy to do over live chat with the usual 5k per person fee in J?

No changes are allowed after the trip is underway.

 

[deebens]

Confusing! I think you mean SCL, as SLC is Salt Lake City

Yeah sorry Santiago.

How many flights is it total? I got it again and it was 6 in the last one. I thought it was only 5 in total?

 

[There'sOnlyOneJimmy]

Does anyone have any experience with changing the flight times or dates of sectors after taking the first flight? No change to the route or carrier but there may be an opportunity to push some dates out. Is there a link to the QF terms & conditions that would allow this? Easy to do over live chat with the usual 5k per person fee in J?

Assuming that there’s a seat available, it can be done. I have personal experience of doing it a couple of years ago.

The relevant rule is:

14.7.6 Subject to this clause 14.7, the following changes are permitted to a Classic Flight Reward flight before departure of that flight, provided the booking contains one or more Flight Segments that are not within Australia, and the Flight Segment(s) being changed do not include a partner airline that requires a ticket to be reissued for the change. Any such change will incur a Change Fee (see the Fee Schedule) per passenger:

(a) change to flight number; and
(b) change to date of travel.

 

[There'sOnlyOneJimmy]

Does anyone have any experience with changing the flight times or dates of sectors after taking the first flight? No change to the route or carrier but there may be an opportunity to push some dates out. Is there a link to the QF terms & conditions that would allow this? Easy to do over live chat with the usual 5k per person fee in J?

Link to the Terms & Conditions page:

Frequent Flyer Terms and Conditions | Qantas

 

[flychrisfly]

Yeah sorry Santiago.

How many flights is it total? I got it again and it was 6 in the last one. I thought it was only 5 in total?

Well, it's 16 flights and 5 stops, or 6 stops if you count coming home as a stop.

 

[soh]

Assuming that there’s a seat available, it can be done. I have personal experience of doing it a couple of years ago.

The relevant rule is:

14.7.6 Subject to this clause 14.7, the following changes are permitted to a Classic Flight Reward flight before departure of that flight, provided the booking contains one or more Flight Segments that are not within Australia, and the Flight Segment(s) being changed do not include a partner airline that requires a ticket to be reissued for the change. Any such change will incur a Change Fee (see the Fee Schedule) per passenger:

(a) change to flight number; and
(b) change to date of travel.

Exactly what I was looking for. The only question is how do I know if the partner airline would need to reissue a ticket? I will be flying on QF, JL, CX, AY and AA. If any of these airlines need to reissue a ticket for a flight number or date change (same routing) then it would mean I can't make the change.

 

[There'sOnlyOneJimmy]

Exactly what I was looking for. The only question is how do I know if the partner airline would need to reissue a ticket? I will be flying on QF, JL, CX, AY and AA. If any of these airlines need to reissue a ticket for a flight number or date change (same routing) then it would mean I can't make the change.

I’m sorry, I can’t answer your question *definitively*, but I *suspect* that the reference to the re-issue of a ticket is to a paper ticket rather than an e-ticket.
In my case, I changed 2 connecting sectors with QR (bringing them forward about a month). I just checked the documentation I received at the time, and what I got was the regular email from Qantas headed “Booking Information”, using the existing PNR and the existing e-ticket number, just with the changed QR sectors.
I may have been lucky: these were the last 2 sectors on the ticket, and only one airline was involved.
Good luck.

 

[Pele]

Gday

Can someone please send the link to the qantas website which tallies up how many points are required for a one world multi carrier award. When i use the multi city option for rewards flights it just adds up each of the sectors. Shouldn't it come up with a points total that references the table in the wiki?

Thank you.
Pele.

 

[djkelly69]

When i use the multi city option for rewards flights it just adds up each of the sectors. Shouldn't it come up with a points total that references the table in the wiki?

Do you have an EK or other non-One World flight in there?

 

[Pele]

Do you have an EK or other non-One World flight in there?

Gday

No. Only MH,JL,CX and QF. I get points totals that dont tally in to any band on the award chart. I will keep playing with it but with JL not being bookable i will have to call when it comes time to book.

Pele.

 

[Captain Halliday]

Gday

No. Only MH,JL,CX and QF. I get points totals that dont tally in to any band on the award chart. I will keep playing with it but with JL not being bookable i will have to call when it comes time to book.

Pele.

Are you within all the other rules - Miles? Stopovers? Sectors?
Perhaps post your routing and we may be able to offer further advice.

 

[Pele]

Are you within all the other rules - Miles? Stopovers? Sectors?
Perhaps post your routing and we may be able to offer further advice.

Captain Halliday,

I think it is the because of a JQ(Japan) flight. Are they oneworld? Anyway my sample itinerary is below:

SYD-oHKG-oNRT-oOKA//TPE-xHKG-oKUL-SYD
CX-CX-JQ-CX-KA-MH

All J except the JQ which is Y only. When it comes time to book i will be booking the domestic Japan leg as JL. Does anyone know how many Qantas points a JL HND-OKA flight would cost?

According to gcmap.com the above itinerary comes in at 13,996 miles which is band 7 on the Qantas table and should be 220,000 points. Strangely enough the above works out as 215,600 on qantas.com. I am guessing the discrepancy is due to the JQ leg only working at at 9,600 points(is JL more?). Based on these calculations is the only benefit in booking the one world multi carrier ticket ,as opposed to the individual tickets, the protection afforded in case of delay for transits?

Thank you.
Pele.

 

[Captain Halliday]

Captain Halliday,

I think it is the because of a JQ(Japan) flight. Are they oneworld? Anyway my sample itinerary is below:

SYD-oHKG-oNRT-oOKA//TPE-xHKG-oKUL-SYD
CX-CX-JQ-CX-KA-MH

All J except the JQ which is Y only. When it comes time to book i will be booking the domestic Japan leg as JL. Does anyone know how many Qantas points a JL HND-OKA flight would cost?

According to gcmap.com the above itinerary comes in at 13,996 miles which is band 7 on the Qantas table and should be 220,000 points. Strangely enough the above works out as 215,600 on qantas.com. I am guessing the discrepancy is due to the JQ leg only working at at 9,600 points(is JL more?). Based on these calculations is the only benefit in booking the one world multi carrier ticket ,as opposed to the individual tickets, the protection afforded in case of delay for transits?

Thank you.
Pele.

JQ is your problem if you want it to price as a oneworld award. JQ is not a oneworld airline.

JL flights would be eligible.

 

[Pele]

Gday

When trying to check availability on a city pair on the qantas website and it says 'these cities are not available on classic flight rewards' does this mean they cannot be a part of the one world multi carrier award? There is plenty of availability for said city pairing on BA.com . The city pairing is TPE-KUL.

Thanks.
Pele.

 

[Captain Halliday]

Gday

When trying to check availability on a city pair on the qantas website and it says 'these cities are not available on classic flight rewards' does this mean they cannot be a part of the one world multi carrier award? There is plenty of availability for said city pairing on BA.com . The city pairing is TPE-KUL.

Thanks.
Pele.

If they’re available as redemption seats on BA, you should be able to include them. However the QF website is known to have issues like this. You will probably have to call QF to get the routing you want.

If it can’t be done online, make sure you ask for the phone booking fee to be waived.

 

[Pele]

If they’re available as redemption seats on BA, you should be able to include them. However the QF website is known to have issues like this. You will probably have to call QF to get the routing you want.

If it can’t be done online, make sure you ask for the phone booking fee to be waived.

Captain thanks for all your help. I am still in the planning stages and will aim to book it in March. What's frustrating is that the TPE-KUL pair gives the message i said above but if you reverse it ie KUL-TPE it works and comes up with MH flights (although no CX/KA).

Pele.

 

[Pele]

This might be stating the obvious but after looking at the QFF one world award tickets and rules this week i have come to the conclusion that the only one which offers any value is band 10 awards ie 19,000- 35,000 miles. For multi stop award tickets below this distance quite often it works out cheaper points wise to book each flight separately. Also when booking separately you dont have the issue of different airlines having their seats become available at different periods in advance.

Not sure if taxes and fees come out differently by booking each flight separately. Maybe someone knows?

Pele.

 

[exceladdict]

This might be stating the obvious but after looking at the QFF one world award tickets and rules this week i have come to the conclusion that the only one which offers any value is band 10 awards ie 19,000- 35,000 miles. For multi stop award tickets below this distance quite often it works out cheaper points wise to book each flight separately. Also when booking separately you dont have the issue of different airlines having their seats become available at different periods in advance.

Not sure if taxes and fees come out differently by booking each flight separately. Maybe someone knows?

Pele.

Depends on the carrier - have a look at the wiki above, for AY for example it seems to be a flat fee no matter how many flights of theirs are in the itinerary, up to a certain number