Dan Murphy's and Other Wine Deals

[ste667]

I made 2 orders with the $100 code which have both been fulfilled.

 

[redbigot]

Cellarmasters can't fulfil the Chateauneuf de Pape that I ordered, so order cancelled. Having paid with a WISH gift card has presented them with a dilemma on how to refund!!

I've received all of mine, didn't order the CndP.
A couple of my subscribers are reporting cancellations (Wolf Blass Grey Label Cabernet, Penley Reserve Cabernet offered as alternative, no reports on CndP cancellation yet) or delays, some where they added glassware to make up the qualifying amount.

 

[CJEMNMAC]

CM are a complete bunch of muppets.

Ordered 6 x Wolf Blass Grey last week. I rang this morning to find order cancelled.

No phone call from them to say cancelled, No refund of funds ( I had to yell and scream for the lady to actually do it ) and no offer of an alternative because need manager approval and he is busy...

Not impressed with my first use of Cellarmasters at all

 

[Mr_Orange]

I've received all of mine, didn't order the CndP.
A couple of my subscribers are reporting cancellations (Wolf Blass Grey Label Cabernet, Penley Reserve Cabernet offered as alternative, no reports on CndP cancellation yet) or delays, some where they added glassware to make up the qualifying amount.

I might ring Cellarmastes back today and call BS.....

 

[Dr Ralph]

YES seems to have gone very quiet - am interested to see if those who made multiple purchases actually had them honoured.

See message #3513.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

See message #3513.

I did - you posted YOUR exp - others also reported making multiple purchases and they may have diff exps.

 

[Wozza]

Cellarmasters can't fulfil the Chateauneuf de Pape that I ordered, so order cancelled. Having paid with a WISH gift card has presented them with a dilemma on how to refund!!

My CdP order was fulfilled through Cellarmasters and the click and collect through BWS last week. I only placed one order using the $100 code.

Shame it hasn't worked for others as the wine is nice, and very different to the GSMs of Australia. It's unmistakably French with the strong Herbs de Provence line running through the nose and palate. It makes for a very decadent drinking experience.

Hopefully you all have some luck getting something out of Cellarmasters, although it seems remote based on what a few are saying.

 

[Mr_Orange]

My CdP order was fulfilled through Cellarmasters and the click and collect through BWS last week. I only placed one order using the $100 code.

Shame it hasn't worked for others as the wine is nice, and very different to the GSMs of Australia. It's unmistakably French with the strong Herbs de Provence line running through the nose and palate. It makes for a very decadent drinking experience.

Hopefully you all have some luck getting something out of Cellarmasters, although it seems remote based on what a few are saying.

I only placed one order too so I haven't fallen foul of the T&Cs of the offer code. Have yet to call them back.

 

[penegal]

Try calling them... Surprisingly they are moderately useful on the phone.

Sometimes if you pay by WISH the order doesn't automatically ship.



If they have sold stock that they don't actually have on hand (below cost), then that is an entirely separate problem.

 

[sagittariusdrake]

I read an interesting article in the Oz this week. Some marketer-type with Coles or Woolies (it doesn't really matter which), extolling the virtues of own label wines. And bizarrely using Aldi as a exemplar of this.

Anyway, I recently purchased a mixed dozen pinot noirs from an online mob, including 3 from the same location & vintage. I thought 'Great! What an opportunity to investigate terroir!'

Well these 3 differently branded "wineries" had the exact same tasting notes regarding the wine as each other. :evil: The only variation was the (false) vapid blurb about the (bogus) winery & the wine's "label".

I've noticed a few other instances of this where the only web history of a wine is with the seller(s). So I shan't name the company in question since this appears to be something that's on the rise & not restricted to them ...

Fair enough, market own-label contracted wine, but have the decency to let us know this. And not pretend that there is any tangible physical presence to a 'winery'.

I recall Redbigot listing who is affiliated with the behemoths of retail. But unless I find incontravertible proof of an actual winery or admission of contracting out etc ... no money shall pass from me to them.

These mobs have a hand in our pockets to a massive extent already & now seek to further rip us off by up-branding clean skins & trying to pass them off as products of an actual unique entity & people (yes i know someone, somewhere made it). Resistance may be futile but anything to discourage this sort of duplicity.

By the way, the pinot was OK for a quaffer, so I didn't kick up a fuss. And their Riesling mix is pretty good, but I'm not inclined to buy from them again, unless it's a great deal on something real.

I feel better now.

 

[sigmadelta]

I had a similar experience with Dan's about a year ago, I bought a six pack of Central Otago Pinot Noir, which turned out to be EsseNZe (secret label so I didn't know in advance). They had concocted a notional retail price from which the deal had been discounted, and I found that the 'original' price was unrealistically high, and in addition the distribution was pretty much limited to Dan's. Perhaps that was another case of a wine being their own label.

I went to Dan's shop and had a word with one of the staff there, telling them the story. The response was that the online guys at Dan's are a free-wheeling bunch who try to pull this kind of thing now and again, and it annoys the hell out of the shop staff because they inevitably have to deal with people like me who want their money back. I'm glad to say that he took the stock back and gave me a refund. Just watch out with Dan's - the left hand doesn't know what the right hand's doing!

 

[redbigot]

I recall Redbigot listing who is affiliated with the behemoths of retail. But unless I find incontravertible proof of an actual winery or admission of contracting out etc ... no money shall pass from me to them.

Who Makes My Wine? – The Real Review
I think it's a bit out of date now, to hard to keep up with the rate of marketeers name inventions.

Of course there is the old story of the bottling line at Cellarmasters stopping to load a different label to be applied to the same batch of wine, no idea if it is true or not.

 

[AnonymousCoward]

These mobs have a hand in our pockets to a massive extent already & now seek to further rip us off by up-branding clean skins & trying to pass them off as products of an actual unique entity & people (yes i know someone, somewhere made it). Resistance may be futile but anything to discourage this sort of duplicity.

I believe there's also some pressure to create these "small scale wineries" because of the tax incentives to do so. I seem to recall reading an article about the Federal treasury and ATO wishing to change the WET because of evidence that it's being "gamed" through sham producers.

 

[Mr_Orange]

I believe there's also some pressure to create these "small scale wineries" because of the tax incentives to do so. I seem to recall reading an article about the Federal treasury and ATO wishing to change the WET because of evidence that it's being "gamed" through sham producers.

An ATO ruling being gamed.... who would have thought it .

 

[penegal]

WET should be abolished entirely. It's a ridiculous tax on top of other taxes.

 

[AnonymousCoward]

An ATO ruling being gamed.... who would have thought it .

It's not an ATO ruling - it's the WET rebate scheme. Found one article: Wine tax rorts exposed | afr.com

 

[sagittariusdrake]

Who Makes My Wine? – The Real Review
I think it's a bit out of date now, to hard to keep up with the rate of marketeers name inventions.

Of course there is the old story of the bottling line at Cellarmasters stopping to load a different label to be applied to the same batch of wine, no idea if it is true or not.

Good Lord - what a list! Includes a number of (historically at least) real wineries. Such a shame If a winery could cross it's legs ...

Funnily enough, those brands that I have seen before all have a certain quality that just doesn't ring true. I've tried a couple of those imports but since they acknowledge the importer, I was under no delusions as to their true provenance.

Interesting to see there Woolies denial of any WET-influence in all this & bleats the "others are doing it too" defence.

 

[redbigot]

Good Lord - what a list! Includes a number of (historically at least) real wineries. Such a shame If a winery could cross it's legs ...

Funnily enough, those brands that I have seen before all have a certain quality that just doesn't ring true. I've tried a couple of those imports but since they acknowledge the importer, I was under no delusions as to their true provenance.

Interesting to see there Woolies denial of any WET-influence in all this & bleats the "others are doing it too" defence.

And that doesn't seem to include all the wines under other real winery labels that are made exclusively for the chains.

 

[beefarmer]

Hi there

I'm just wondering whether todays 6-pack offering from Dan's is worth a punt? https://www.danmurphys.com.au/produ...92&mid=Offer_20160205_Monday_22392&rid=370825
I see that Shadrach retails at $100 so it could be great or 5 duds in the mix with it.

Keen to hear peoples thoughts & thanks for any advice

my six pack was delivered at 11.30 today. Under two days for this delivery is ridiculously good.

 

[beefarmer]

Hi All Thought I'd share this one:
https://www.nicks.com.au/2013-warrabilla-limited-release-parola-s-durif
(their notes, ahem 17.5% ABV - the zinfandel a mere 17%)

‘A behemoth of a wine and a potential legend in the making.’​

Only produced in perfect vintages this is the first Parola’s Durif made since the 2009. Matured in 100% new American puncheons the wine has a magnificent glass staining colour showing paint like cling to the walls of the glass. An impenetrable inky black core with a very deep black dark purple hue. Black cherry and liquorice aromas are followed by hints of dark chocolate, black plum, vanillin cedar and spice. Explosive, opulent and penetrating with vintage port like concentration and density, yet not a trace of heat apparent. The balance is impeccable for such a high octane beast. Almost achingly intense flavours of black and morello cherry, liquorice and black plum overwhelm the senses; nuances of dark chocolate, vanillin oak and spice follow. The sheer body and power of the wine threatens to fall over - if not for support by tannins the size of Conan the Barbarian. The aftertaste of black and morello cherries, liquorice, dark chocolate and spicy vanillin oak is utterly profound. A riveting Durif experience that will no doubt go 10 years plus.

https://www.nicks.com.au/2013-warrabilla-limited-release-parola-s-zinfandel
Impentrable inky black core with a bright dark crimson purple hue. Ripe black cherry, black plum and liquorice aromas are intermixed with vanillin oak overtones and spice end notes. Huge in weight and richness with palate staining flavours of ripe black cherry and liquorice over some dark chocolate, vanillin oak and spice. Incredible authority and depth with velvety yet sturdily built tannin structure. Long aftertaste of ripe black cherries, black plum, liquorice and spicy vanillin oak.

Both $34.99.

I will dropping into the east doncaster store to buy two botts of the former zin. The hyperbole may be a tad overdone but the score, and the uniqueness surely put this in the must try department. My only stocks of zin were from the fo, west oz churchview st johns zin. Had two from the case. A beautifully elegant wine. This zin here will not be so elegant, but it wont matter.