Women cannot run an airline

[cpl]

Indeed, the man in this case is the same man that is in manuscript - of the hand. So, chairman is correct and non reflective of gender.

Not according to http://www.wordorigins.org/wordorc.htm 8)

"In a bit of revisionist etymology, some claim that the term chairman is inherently non-sexist because the -man portion comes from the Latin manus, meaning hand. The chairman is the hand of the one sitting in the chair guiding the meeting.

This is simply incorrect. It comes from chair, as in the chair of authority, plus man, or person. The word appears as early as 1654. Chairwoman is not that much younger. It appears as early as 1699, although it was not in common use until the 19th century."

 

[tuapekastar]

Thanks for the interesting site link cpl. I was under the same impression as oz_mark re the origins of chairman. I guess I have been exposed to, and sometimes arc up against, too many of the PC sort of people whose modus operandi is to simply do a "change all" in a document from "man" to "person", hence ending up with terms like "personhole", "personning his post" and the like.

Still interesting that MJ referred to herself as "chairman"

Anyway, I'm dragging things OT.

Cheers

 

[oz_mark]

I thought refuting this would be easy. After all, I have google, and I can find proof of anything I like on the web. But there seems to be little on the web supporting what I had been led to believe on this matter. Damn, I hate that.

 

[Yada Yada]

terms like "personhole"

I think this should probably be a word. I like the sound of it. Not as a replacement for "manhole', but just some kind of insult that can be used. :mrgreen:

 

[Dave Noble]

Indeed, the man in this case is the same man that is in manuscript - of the hand. So, chairman is correct and non reflective of gender.

Not according to http://www.wordorigins.org/wordorc.htm 8)

But who says that this site's view that the common view is incorrect, is correct

Dave

 

[tuapekastar]

Indeed, the man in this case is the same man that is in manuscript - of the hand. So, chairman is correct and non reflective of gender.

Not according to http://www.wordorigins.org/wordorc.htm 8)

But who says that this site's view that the common view is incorrect, is correct

Dave

Quite true Dave. It's finding the correct evidence that the allegedly incorrect view is in fact correct that is the problem. I think. :? I would love for this correct reference to be in fact, incorrect. And I didn't have to correct myself once.

 

[Lonely Flyer]

Dont get me started on the subject of having to sit around in the aircraft waiting for some so called VIP to show up! :twisted: Why should other fare paying PAX have to suffer, because some other PAX who cant get their act together and be on time. Yeah yeah I know about late connections etc, but twice in the last six months(QF) I have been in this situation. On one departure it was a 45mins wait and the CSM openly apologised on at least three occasions for the situation'' to a point it became embarrassing for him. In conclusion would they wait for me.....I doubt it!

Hey I am new here but it is not always peoples fault. In Sept 2004 I was connecting from Phoenix by America West. Left gate on time but then sat on tarmac at Sky Harbour for almost 30 mins waiting to get slot into LA. Arrived LA and sat on tarmac until there was a free gate. Could not check luggage through at Phoenix. Waited for luggage then ran for the bus to International. Arrived at terminal and joined first of 3 enormously long lines. Thankfuly for some kind TSA man we got bumped up the queue for luggage xray but then to the end of the 3rd line. Finally ran to the aircraft with shoes in hand. Sorry but on paper we had plenty of time. Will know better next time and come in a day earlier.

 

[straitman]

Indeed, the man in this case is the same man that is in manuscript - of the hand. So, chairman is correct and non reflective of gender.

Not according to http://www.wordorigins.org/wordorc.htm 8)

But who says that this site's view that the common view is incorrect, is correct

Dave

Quite true Dave. It's finding the correct evidence that the allegedly incorrect view is in fact correct that is the problem. I think. :? I would love for this correct reference to be in fact, incorrect. And I didn't have to correct myself once.

Back to being off topic 8) :roll:

My understanding was that chairman refered to chair manager :!:

Then again I'm probably as wrong as the next person :!:

 

[oz_mark]

Indeed, the man in this case is the same man that is in manuscript - of the hand. So, chairman is correct and non reflective of gender.

Not according to http://www.wordorigins.org/wordorc.htm 8)

But who says that this site's view that the common view is incorrect, is correct

Dave

Quite true Dave. It's finding the correct evidence that the allegedly incorrect view is in fact correct that is the problem. I think. :? I would love for this correct reference to be in fact, incorrect. And I didn't have to correct myself once.

Back to being off topic 8) :roll:

My understanding was that chairman refered to chair manager :!:

Then again I'm probably as wrong as the next person :!:

Someone;s got to manage the chairs.

 

[straitman]

Indeed, the man in this case is the same man that is in manuscript - of the hand. So, chairman is correct and non reflective of gender.

Not according to http://www.wordorigins.org/wordorc.htm 8)

But who says that this site's view that the common view is incorrect, is correct

Dave

Quite true Dave. It's finding the correct evidence that the allegedly incorrect view is in fact correct that is the problem. I think. :? I would love for this correct reference to be in fact, incorrect. And I didn't have to correct myself once.

Back to being off topic 8) :roll:

My understanding was that chairman refered to chair manager :!:

Then again I'm probably as wrong as the next person :!:

Someone;s got to manage the chairs.

and..................

 

[oz_mark]

My understanding was that chairman refered to chair manager :!:

Then again I'm probably as wrong as the next person :!:

Someone;s got to manage the chairs.

and..................

I've never heard of the position, so I wonder what a chair manager actually does.

 

[straitman]

My understanding was that chairman refered to chair manager :!:

Then again I'm probably as wrong as the next person :!:

Someone;s got to manage the chairs.

and..................

I've never heard of the position, so I wonder what a chair manager actually does.

Hopefully he/she manages to chair the meeting :!: or looks after all the chairs at the meeting or..............

 

[JohnK]

Oh my. :shock:

How easily a thread goes off-topic. :roll:

Did someone mention a chair :?:

 

[Yada Yada]

Someone;s got to manage the chairs.

That's exactly what Marge was doing - carrying around layouts of the chairs on the aircraft she was thinking of purchasing.

See... back OT! :mrgreen:

 

[oz_mark]

Someone;s got to manage the chairs.

That's exactly what Marge was doing - carrying around layouts of the chairs on the aircraft she was thinking of purchasing.

See... back OT! :mrgreen:

and whether they should recline or not?

 

[Yada Yada]

Someone;s got to manage the chairs.

That's exactly what Marge was doing - carrying around layouts of the chairs on the aircraft she was thinking of purchasing.

See... back OT! :mrgreen:

and whether they should recline or not?

Yes! From a central control at the front of the cabin.

 

[oz_mark]

Now to try to bring this back on topic

Why exactly would having some aircraft schematics be considered such a threat?

 

[JohnK]

Yes! From a central control at the front of the cabin.

Is the location of the central control a secret :?:

Are mere mortals fed up with recliners able to take control of the central control thereby rendering recliners unreclineable for the duration of the flight. :?:

 

[Yada Yada]

Yes! From a central control at the front of the cabin.

Is the location of the central control a secret :?:

No - they are going to put it in the telephone handset at the front. The piltot will call the cabin supervisor on the phone and tell him/her to "press the button". All pax who are reclined will immediately return to the upright position. And toilet seats will slam shut.

Are mere mortals fed up with recliners able to take control of the central control thereby rendering recliners unreclineable for the duration of the flight. :?:

The IFE remote controls in F and J will enable those pax to control the reclining of seats in Y, and they will be able to watch it on their screen. This feature will be located under the "Games" section of the IFE system.

 

[JohnK]

No - they are going to put it in the telephone handset at the front. The piltot will call the cabin supervisor on the phone and tell him/her to "press the button". All pax who are reclined will immediately return to the upright position. And toilet seats will slam shut.

So in theory when all FA's, cabin crew are down the back dozing, chatting, doing whatever they do best, ignoring passengers, I can go and press the button and bam every seat returns to upright position. I may just have to hide in the F or J cabin for a while so they can't work out who "pressed the button".

I like this already. And you say Margaret has these plans.