when will state borders re-open?

drron

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Well a little hope as WA taking a more nuanced approach.
WA Health has issued advice for recently returned Queensland travellers, following a public health alert issued for parts of Brisbane.


Anyone who has arrived in WA from Queensland since 10 March and who visited any of the affected locations during the relevant times should get tested immediately for COVID-19 and quarantine.


They should also phone Queensland Health’s information line 13HEALTH (13 43 25 84).



Venue name, Location

Suburb

Date

Time

Morning After Café, cnr Vulture & Cambridge St

West End

Thursday 11 March 2021

14:00 – 15:15

Corporate Box Gym, East Brisbane, 368A Logan Road

Greenslopes

Thursday 11 March 2021

17:45 – 19:00

Stones Corner Hotel, 346 Logan Road

Stones Corner

Thursday 11 March 2021

19:00

 

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Well a little hope as WA taking a more nuanced approach.



Venue name, Location

Suburb

Date

Time

Morning After Café, cnr Vulture & Cambridge St

West End

Thursday 11 March 2021

14:00 – 15:15

Corporate Box Gym, East Brisbane, 368A Logan Road

Greenslopes

Thursday 11 March 2021

17:45 – 19:00

Stones Corner Hotel, 346 Logan Road

Stones Corner

Thursday 11 March 2021

19:00

Elections over, then?
 

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Well nearly a year since this thread was started, and the question is still as relevant as ever.

At the rate we are progressing, I despair of ever having free movement between the states, unhindered by fears of arbitrary and sudden border closures, fears of 14 days hotel quarantine at high cost or 14 days self-iso at high inconvenience and possibly also high cost if it is at your destination where you don't actually live, holiday plans in a shambles, locked away somewhere and not being able to work and having to take a lot of your annual leave to cover your quarantine/isolation....:(:mad:o_O
 

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QLD has.Arrivals from PER since 17/4 need to isolate as per the WA rules.

And NSW saying any arrivals from PER from midnight must fill in a declaration that they haven't been at any of the sites listed by WA.

Nothing from Tassie at present.
 

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Well nearly a year since this thread was started, and the question is still as relevant as ever.

At the rate we are progressing, I despair of ever having free movement between the states, unhindered by fears of arbitrary and sudden border closures, fears of 14 days hotel quarantine at high cost or 14 days self-iso at high inconvenience and possibly also high cost if it is at your destination where you don't actually live, holiday plans in a shambles, locked away somewhere and not being able to work and having to take a lot of your annual leave to cover your quarantine/isolation....:(:mad:o_O

You wrote that 2.5 months ago but it's as relevant today as it was then.

The Victorian Government is claiming 'today's a great day' but from Friday 11 June at 0001 hours, those in Melbourne will still be subject to a 25 kilometre travel limit. Plus no visitors to households, and only a maximum 25 per cent of staff in workplaces. How is this 'freedom'?

I can't see other states lifting their restrictions on Victorians. They also aren't falling over themselves to suggest their residents ought visit Melbourne or the rest of Victoria.

We'll have to wait until perhaps tomorrow to discover what this means for airline and other transport timetables, but continuing mass cancellations into and out of MEL must be on the cards.
 

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I had friends hoping that interstate travel from MEL could still go ahead this weekend. This level of easing of restrictions is not going to facilitate that. Even if states eased restrictions the airport being over 25km away would scuttle the plans.

My next flight is in about a couple of weeks. I’m not confident that that trip will go ahead.
 

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You wrote that 2.5 months ago but it's as relevant today as it was then.

The Victorian Government is claiming 'today's a great day' but from Friday 11 June at 0001 hours, those in Melbourne will still be subject to a 25 kilometre travel limit. Plus no visitors to households, and only a maximum 25 per cent of staff in workplaces. How is this 'freedom'?

I can't see other states lifting their restrictions on Victorians. They also aren't falling over themselves to suggest their residents ought visit Melbourne or the rest of Victoria.

We'll have to wait until perhaps tomorrow to discover what this means for airline and other transport timetables, but continuing mass cancellations into and out of MEL must be on the cards.
I remain in despair. This is no way to live. I would be happy to spend money to support businesses (everywhere except Qld - I am still not over their behaviour and the recent example with the premature newborn baby whose parents have been kept away just stokes that fire) - but I am still afraid of snap lockdowns etc.

We were planning to welcome my niece and her partner (who live in Melbourne) for a short visit later this month, but that is certainly not happening now. Our Australia-based family remains shattered and shuttered away by the approach of COVID-0 that stealthily replaced suppression and "flatten the curve" somewhere along the line (except in NSW and maybe here in ACT as we sensibly just follow NSW).

And don't even get me started on how I long to see my son who lives overseas....
 

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I remain in despair. This is no way to live. I would be happy to spend money to support businesses (everywhere except Qld - I am still not over their behaviour and the recent example with the premature newborn baby whose parents have been kept away just stokes that fire) - but I am still afraid of snap lockdowns etc.

We were planning to welcome my niece and her partner (who live in Melbourne) for a short visit later this month, but that is certainly not happening now. Our Australia-based family remains shattered and shuttered away by the approach of COVID-0 that stealthily replaced suppression and "flatten the curve" somewhere along the line (except in NSW and maybe here in ACT as we sensibly just follow NSW).

And don't even get me started on how I long to see my son who lives overseas....

Like many of us, I had an interstate trip booked - only my second in 15 months, a sad commentary on where I reside - and had to cancel at short notice. But my woes don't involve interstate family so are minor in comparison.

It seems unwise/risky to propose any travel by any means (air or surface) to/from Victoria at present, much as you and I want to.

I know a couple of individuals who have already left Victoria for good, selling up everything and a couple more who are considering (admittedly easy to say that, but more difficult to follow through). They are a micro sample.

I had previously thought businesses on the Great Ocean Road in Victoria made super profits most years, no different to a gold mine when the bulls are out in force, but I hear third hand that in the part of it closer to Geelong (Anglesea, Torquay), many businesses are at breaking point as a small state government payment here or there, if they qualify, doesn't pay for numerous fixed (and some variable) expenses.

The disruption has been immense as they need visitors from Melbourne, interstate and overseas to prosper (and, they claim, to survive). My informant doesn't have information from further west along that iconic roadway, nor for Mornington Peninsula or for ski season businesses in Mt Buller, Mt Hotham, Falls Creek and so on. I bet many of these enterprises are badly feeling the pinch.

Imposed government capacity restrictions can mean even if there's a flood of visitors once travel restrictions ease (claimed by Vic government to be 17 June), businesses cannot accommodate the rush to recover the lost revenue from closed periods. Many wouldn't have the staff to cope, either, and in some cases not the seating capacity.

One credit watching business (not a credit agency as such, but allied) said in the paper yesterday or this morning that in a couple of months there will be quite a lot of companies going into administration.

This single-minded 'shut down Melbourne' (or the state) is doing huge long term damage to Victoria. Who'd want to come down here by air for a ladies' weekend or shopping trip?

Unfortunately that means tourism and transport jobs suffer, including in aviation. Perhaps a large operator like QFd may not sack more staff than it has already announced, but in some cases those on the payroll may have fewer block hours or if casuals, shifts.
 

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It seems unwise/risky to propose any travel by any means (air or surface) to/from Victoria at present, much as you and I want to.
I'm hoping to travel later this month or failing that next month. With my schedule those are the times that suit best to take some leave before the end of the year.
nor for Mornington Peninsula
The Mornington Peninsula is considered to be part of Greater Melbourne as far as restrictions go and is close enough for people who own houses to have considered heading there for lockdown. However, any long weekend plans to rent some place will have been scuppered.
Imposed government capacity restrictions can mean even if there's a flood of visitors once travel restrictions ease (claimed by Vic government to be 17 June), businesses cannot accommodate the rush to recover the lost revenue from closed periods. Many wouldn't have the staff to cope, either, and in some cases not the seating capacity.
One can only hope that when the 25km rule is relaxed that seating restrictions will be eased as well.
One credit watching business (not a credit agency as such, but allied) said in the paper yesterday or this morning that in a couple of months there will be quite a lot of companies going into administration.
Well currently administrations are still well down on levels seen prior to COVID. I remember reading news articles saying that many insolvency firms claimed JobKeeper due to a massive downturn in work. JobKeeper etc. could well have just pushed the can down the road. All the money spent to keep companies afloat last year could go to waste in VIC if lockdowns continue to occur.

What would really push a lot of companies into liquidation is if major creditors such as the ATO (the ATO is the creditor for unpaid taxes and superannuation) take the companies to court (or send clear signals that they are heading towards doing that) over not paying their bills. The ATO could also hand out Directors Penalty Notices to Directors.

This single-minded 'shut down Melbourne' (or the state) is doing huge long term damage to Victoria. Who'd want to come down here by air for a ladies' weekend or shopping trip?

Unfortunately that means tourism and transport jobs suffer, including in aviation. Perhaps a large operator like QFd may not sack more staff than it has already announced, but in some cases those on the payroll may have fewer block hours or if casuals, shifts.
It's certainly clear that the challenging times for aviation and tourism have some way to go.
 

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I have a trip booked to QLD for this weekend, this will be the third attempt to visit since November. I’ve decided 3 strikes and out and will not be rebooking for the near future, QLD’s loss, not mine. The money saved will go into supporting Vic Businesses and paying off the new car.

Apart from Gladys, I’m appalled at the other states behaviour towards us Victorians, Australia doesn’t feel like one country anymore.
 

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My daughter and her family were going to Qld on Monday for a week and my hubby and I were joining them later in the week to spend time with the Qld branch of our family and celebrate a family birthday and introduce the new baby (8 months old) to the rellies. Probably none of us is going now I would say. I was conflicted about this trip anyway as I don't really want to reward Qld for its behaviour, but that is where the family lives. I consoled myself by saying that I am staying with them, using their car and eating their food so I am not really rewarding them. But then I feel guilty about the poor small businesses. And even sorry for Qantas in this scenario.

I have a friend who went to Qld today from ACT to assist another friend with a compassionate task in Brisbane, who was planning to come home on Saturday via Sydney to see her dad who just had a stroke - she's on hold at Qantas at the moment and has asked me to keep texting her details about QLD/NSW?ACT closure, restriction or quarantine/iso requirements.

Honestly, this is just totally ridiculous.
 

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Apparently a new case on the Sunshine Coast from a woman/ husband who drove to QLD to escape Melbourne lockdown, no further information as yet whether they crossed the border ‘Illegally’ but it reads like they have.
 

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no further information as yet whether they crossed the border ‘Illegally’ but it reads like they have.
Given that arrivals from hotspots are meant to arrive by air then I suspect its illegal.
 
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Apparently a new case on the Sunshine Coast from a woman/ husband who drove to QLD to escape Melbourne lockdown, no further information as yet whether they crossed the border ‘Illegally’ but it reads like they have.

"The woman left Melbourne on June 1 and travelled with her husband through NSW and crossed the border into Queensland on June 5.
Once arriving on the Sunshine Coast they traipsed across Caloundra to many shops and cafes which have now all been declared exposure sites.
Authorities said it was not yet known why or how the woman had left Victoria, understood to be a suburb on the edge of Greater Melbourne, during the lockdown but those questions would be investigated.
But for now Dr Jeannette Young said the focus was on contact tracing. Six close contacts had been identified and the partner had been tested negative.
He has been admitted into hospital in case he was a carrier having spent so long in the car with his wife."

There is a long list of site visited in the paper.
 

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