What's your QF status?

[NM]

At the moment, lots of Plats have answered the question. Perhaps we read the Board more :idea:

I wouldn't say the poll leads to the belief that mainly WP's frequent this site. On the contrary of the 52 answers to date there are 20 WP's, 13 SG's, 11 PS's and 8 NB's. This proves that there are a lot of lower status QFF'ers frequenting this site.[/quote]
Alternately it may prove that people often lie about their status .

 

[Yada Yada]

Alternately it may prove that people often lie about their status .

Not me...

 

[JohnK]

Alternately it may prove that people often lie about their status .

I know your comment is tounge in cheek. I couldn't believe that there would be too many people lying about their status. There is nothing to gain.

 

[JohnK]

That's true - however the poll results are inverse of the general QFF membership.

On AFF more WPs than SGs, more SGs than PSs, more PSs than NBs

All QFF less WPs than SGs, less SGs than PSs, less PSs than NBs


I am also not surprised by this in the slightest.

True... But I have been told on more than one occassion that this site is mainly for WP's. I do not see this reflected in the poll. I know it does not reflect the true nature of QFF membership but there are 1470 registered users on aff and of these 52 answered the poll. Of this just over a third are WP. :!: Not very convincing for claiming aff as a WP dominant site.

To me it proves that just as many PS & NB frequent this site as WP. If you include SG with PS & NB then this site is mostly dominated by lower status QFF'ers. Maybe they don't frequent as often as a WP but just the same they frequent.

In my opinion a lower status QFF'er has more to gain from this site than WP. You will find that a lot of these lower status QFF'ers just lurk and do not post, and if they do post then they have a very low post count.

 

[tuapekastar]

I was (and still am) a voracious reader of AFF well prior to making any posts. I find it (and FT, which I discovered via AFF) interesting and very useful for picking up hints and tips on making air travel a more enjoyable experience for me.

I suspect you're right JohnK, in your assertion that there a lot of NBs and PSs (and probably non-FF members as well) that lurk but don't post.

I think the majority of posts are made by WPs and SGs for the simple reason that they fly more, so have more experiences to share, and most importantly, have the knowledge gained by virtue of flying so much (I think warks said something along these lines in an early post in this thread)

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

this site is mainly for WP's

I hope you (or anyone else) dont feel this way. As pointed out by others the most vocal AFFers tend to be those who travel a lot and thus have lots of experiences to share (which is a good thing I think).

BTW I think SG is also a high status and even PS represents a lot of travel compared to the general public.

 

[serfty]

True... But I have been told on more than one occassion that this site is mainly for WP's. I do not see this reflected in the poll. I know it does not reflect the true nature of QFF membership but there are 1470 registered users on aff and of these 52 answered the poll. Of this just over a third are WP. :!: Not very convincing for claiming aff as a WP dominant site.

To me it proves that just as many PS & NB frequent this site as WP. If you include SG with PS & NB then this site is mostly dominated by lower status QFF'ers. Maybe they don't frequent as often as a WP but just the same they frequent.

In my opinion a lower status QFF'er has more to gain from this site than WP. You will find that a lot of these lower status QFF'ers just lurk and do not post, and if they do post then they have a very low post count.

I was thinking about this along the lines of "which came first, the chicken or the Egg.

i.e. Is one a WP or soon to be one because of the information that can be found here; or do WP's naturally gravitate to this site.

On reflection, I thinks it's a bit of both; to use the above question, the answer is more of a Chicken Omelette. And this probably extends in both scenarios to SG's and somewhat to PS's as well.

I can categorically state that I am currently a WP due to information, links and resources I found on this site. However, I had been gold (old and new) for 7 of the last 8 years and in maintaining that status had learned much. Knowledge which I am most happy to impart.

So to paraphrase previous posts, I am WP because of what I learned here and I frequent here because I travel a lot.

Funnily enough, these days I feel like a "humble WP". Is that an oxymoron? :?

 

[JohnK]

I can categorically state that I am currently a WP due to information, links and resources I found on this site. However, I had been gold (old and new) for 7 of the last 8 years and in maintaining that status had learned much. Knowledge which I am most happy to impart.

So to paraphrase previous posts, I am WP because of what I learned here and I frequent here because I travel a lot.

I totally agree with you.

All I am trying to say is that aff is for everyone to benefit from experience of others. Granted that the most knowledgeable would be long time WP's simply because of their flying experience. If the information obtained here helps you to achieve WP, then fantastic. Once a WP then post more and hopefully help others achieve what you have been able to achieve. Share information, share knowledge and everyone prospers including aff. Better site, greater patronage, more people benefitting.

By saying all of this is does not mean that a SG, PS or NB cannot offer any useful information. Everyone has different experiences. I am only PS but I feel that sometimes I have information that helps some people in certain situations.

 

[JohnK]

Many thanks, JohnK - that's very reassuring! And you don't sound so unlucky to me!

No problem Icarus. Anytime I can help it is a pleasure.

I just booked award DRW-SIN-SYD for April and as soon as I booked I got allocated 23J for QF81 DRW-SIN, first row aisle seat behind business class, and 27H for QF6 SIN-SYD, second row aisle seat behind business class. I have also paid for QF739, domestic, SYD-ADL and QF81, international, ADL-DRW to join up with award flight from DRW and guess what? I got allocated 23J for ADL-DRW as well.

I enjoy booking early and don't mind paying just that little bit extra. As mentioned before more than likely i get my forward aisle preference.

Hope it helps you in your travels. Remember I am only plebby silver and I have seat allocation as soon as I make booking.

What can I say, the unluckiest man in the world.

 

[icarus]

Actually, I just changed the date on my booking (decided to skip a convention) and now that Qantas have emailed me my amended itinerary I can see that I have been allocated 35H on the way over and 26A on the way back (nice and forward, but a window, which is a bummer). Both flights are on 747s.

Off to seatguru now to check them out, but any added information welcome!

 

[icarus]

Woah - 26A is business class! Is that a mistake? Should I say something?

 

[JohnK]

Woah - 26A is business class! Is that a mistake? Should I say something?

On a 747 row 26 shouldn't be business class but rather the first row behind business class. I have 27H and this is the second row behind business class.

 

[NM]

Woah - 26A is business class! Is that a mistake? Should I say something?

On a 747 row 26 shouldn't be business class but rather the first row behind business class. I have 27H and this is the second row behind business class.

It depends on the config. One a 2-class 744 seat 26A is the bulkhead row in economy. On a 3-class 744 it is the last row of the first lower deck business class cabin.

 

[JohnK]

Woah - 26A is business class! Is that a mistake? Should I say something?

On a 747 row 26 shouldn't be business class but rather the first row behind business class. I have 27H and this is the second row behind business class.

It depends on the config. One a 2-class 744 seat 26A is the bulkhead row in economy. On a 3-class 744 it is the last row of the first lower deck business class cabin.

Didn't think there was a clash in row numbers between first/business/economy. On an A330 the first economy row is 23 and I don't believe there are 22 rows of business/first. I think something similar for 767.

QF6 is 2-class or 3-class? As explained SIN-SYD row 26 is first row in economy, which would suggest 2-class. And as Icarus pointed out allocated 35H there and 26A back which again would suggest 2-class flying economy.

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

Didn't think there was a clash in row numbers between first/business/economy.

Its because the numbering isnt consistent between aircraft. SQ has a good system in that first starts row 1, business row 11 (& 22 for lower deck 747) and economy row 31.

Having said that, as pax there are advantages if you know how the seat rows for class may change (assuming airline keeps your pre-selected seat number which isnt always the case).

 

[Yada Yada]

QF6 is 2-class or 3-class?

QF6 is a 2-class service. There are a lot of cattle class seats on those planes. When I flew on this service last year I had a seat in J upstairs, which meant walking through the economy cabin to get there. Oh the humanity.... :roll: :wink:

 

[NM]

Row 23 is consistently the first row of Zone B on QF widebody aircraft. Its just that on 747s Zone B is used for business class and on A330 and 763 it is used for economy.

And on 3-class 747s, all of Zone B is business class (rows 23-16) and the start of Zone C is business class on the 64J config, but Zone C is all economy on the 50J config.

On 2-class 747s, Zone B is mixed business class (rows 23 ad 24) and economy (rows 26-28).

Similarly, row 11 is consistently the first row in Zone F.

 

[JohnK]

Didn't think there was a clash in row numbers between first/business/economy.

Its because the numbering isnt consistent between aircraft. SQ has a good system in that first starts row 1, business row 11 (& 22 for lower deck 747) and economy row 31.

I think I prefer the SQ option where you know which class you are flying by the row number.

 

[JohnK]

Row 23 is consistently the first row of Zone B on QF widebody aircraft. Its just that one 747s Zone B is used for business class and on A330 and 763 it is used for economy.

And on 3-class 747s, all of Zone B is business class (rows 23-16) and the start of Zone C is business class on the 64J config, but Zone C is all economy on the 50J config.

On 2-class 747s, Zone B is mixed business class (rows 23 ad 24) and economy (rows 26-28).

Similarly, row 11 is consistently the first row in Zone F.

OK understand the inconsistency between row numbers on different configurations of 747's. And I am trying hard to learn more so that I can help others in the future.

Back to the original question by Icarus.

Actually, I just changed the date on my booking (decided to skip a convention) and now that Qantas have emailed me my amended itinerary I can see that I have been allocated 35H on the way over and 26A on the way back (nice and forward, but a window, which is a bummer). Both flights are on 747s.

Off to seatguru now to check them out, but any added information welcome!

Woah - 26A is business class! Is that a mistake? Should I say something?

This seems to be a 2-class config. :? Seat guru has made a mistake in showing 26A as business class? Or am I totally wrong.

 

[NM]

This seems to be a 2-class config. :? Seat guru has made a mistake in showing 26A as business class? Or am I totally wrong.

Seatguru only shows one config for QF, bing a 3-class 747-400 in the "Kangaroo" config of 14F, 50J (Skybed) and 318 Y. It does not show all configs of QF aircraft.