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What are These Changes to Qantas's FFP after May 2008

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inpd

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Hi,

I keep on hearing about Qantas's changes to their FFP after
May 2008.

Can some kind soul please point me to an announcement.
I'm an Expat in U.S. and am left out of the loop.

But I do have 96K points and plan to use it soon (Nov 2008)
for a return trip back home from SFO.
 

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inpd said:
Hi,

I keep on hearing about Qantas's changes to their FFP after
May 2008.

Can some kind soul please point me to an announcement.
I'm an Expat in U.S. and am left out of the loop.

But I do have 96K points and plan to use it soon (Nov 2008)
for a return trip back home from SFO.
Nothing 'formally' released as yet that I'm aware of though on big 'enhancement' is availability on all flights. No idea of cost or details as yet.
 

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Mwenenzi said:
Will put in a bad post report in the hope our estemmed Moderators can move this thread to the QF Forum where it belongs
I agree. Not much ambiguity, so I have moved to QFF forum.
 

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I am hopeful that various in-the-know posters on AFF will keep us all informed of changes. I am assuming that any "enhancements" likely to have a negative FF effect will need to be communicated 6 months prior to the effective change. Given my assumption of February change notifications, I have booked my July International flights; current FF terms/conditions had a significant impact on my purchase decision, so I am hopeful not to be disappointed.
 

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About the only that is known in the public domain at the moment is that Qantas plans to make some changes that will take affect sometime around the middle of the year. We know they usually provide 6 months notice of any major changes.

They have also suggested they will include the ability to use FF points to redeem flights even if the regular award seats are not available (at additional points cost of course). Just how this will work has not yet been published, but we can speculate that QF will apply some monetary value to the points as they apply against the available fares at the time.

We have already seen a few recent changes around the introduction of Premium Economy and how that has affected upgrades and flight awards.

As far as I know, all other aspects of the changes are speculation at the moment.
 

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Certainly plenty of speculation; most indications are that changes are to be announced in February, coming into effect six months later - sometime in August.

On that basis, we will probably know within 30 days!
 

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Per another post I made.
As described to financial community in the HY results.

No changes to the existing reward program and seat availability on QF, JQ and oneworld partners.

Additional choice of rewards on QF/JQ with points required for rewards based on lowest available ticket cost.
 

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From what I hear within the industry

* Travel on any seat at a 25- 50% premium in miles and be subject to seasonality. So a 96k trip to LAX could now be 110k in Low Season and 130k in Peak Season (economy) but with more seats available

* 96k rewards will still be available but even less availability than before and still be non-seasonal

It will be a two tiered system.

A. Want to book a week / month and have more seats available then pay the increased miles
B. Want to book a year out with even less seats available then nothing has changed

This is all I heard in economy. For J and F where fares are non-seasonal (except for Christmas / New Year special when less corp biz is done) it's just an increase in miles required with more seats made available.

Program is still being tweaked and market researched through QFF'ers

Good Luck
 

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AlphaVictor said:
This is all I heard in economy. For J and F where fares are non-seasonal (except for Christmas / New Year special when less corp biz is done) it's just an increase in miles required with more seats made available.
An overall increase in U and Z inventory would be a good thing for Aadvantage members!
 

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I don't think there will be an increase in U and Z buckets at all.
These more expensive fares will probably book into paid classes and not be available to other oneworld partners
 

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AlphaVictor said:
* Travel on any seat at a 25- 50% premium in miles and be subject to seasonality. So a 96k trip to LAX could now be 110k in Low Season and 130k in Peak Season (economy) but with more seats available
Are these the actual numbers you heard or just calculations using the percentages?

By my calculation 25% premium on 96,000 QFF points should be 120,000 QFF points and 50% premium on 96,000 QFF points should be 144,000 QFF points.

If this is the end result for anytime awards in economy it is not great but much better than the original 100% premium I predicted.

odoherty said:
An overall increase in U and Z inventory would be a good thing for Aadvantage members!
If there was an overall increase in U and Z inventory it would be for QFF anytime awards and not for AAdvantage members.

But judging by what was mentioned by AlphaVictor in an earlier post it would appear there will be less availability of the normal award seats which will more than likely mean that AAdvantage members will have less award seat availability as the award seats are released to QFF members first and then to other Oneworld Alliance carriers.
 
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Just illustrative. The actual % figures are being held close by the powers that be but best indication is between the 25 and 50% mark based around seasonality (for Y class). How this translates across to other FF programs is anyone's guess. In hindsight I should have just mentioned the % rather than the miles/kms. Good luck
 
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