Western Sydney Airport (WSI) Discussion

[Daver6]

Richmond was considered multiple times, but issues such as fog, it's elevation (20m) and flood issues, and those flood issues preventing broader development around the area counted it out.

Badgerys (at 60km) is only slightly further out than Richmond (52km) from Sydney's centre and there is more growth to the SW than NW due to flood plain issues .

Where in Hoxton Park would you put an airport. Even if you took over the entire industrial zone that's about 1/4 of the Badgerys Creek land.
Let alone the amount of existing housing.

Anyhow. Apparently one of the last drone videos of WSI and surrounds, as a drone exclusion zone will soon be introduced as testing ramps up.

Looks like only 7 airbridges? Doesn't seem like a lot for a new major airport.

Also, the comment that a second terminal will be duplicated on the other side. Has Sydney not learnt anything about having terminals far apart?!

 

[HS-TQE]

Looks like only 7 airbridges? Doesn't seem like a lot for a new major airport.

Also, the comment that a second terminal will be duplicated on the other side. Has Sydney not learnt anything about having terminals far apart?!

I'd suspect all the aerorbdige gates are Flex gates that can switch between international and domestic use.

There is a lot of non-contact bays on both sides which could be used for the JQ (and potentially QFLink E190) operations as well, considering JQ will be the largest domestic carrier (building up to 10 aircraft) at WSI when it initially opens.

 

[Harrison_133]

Looks like only 7 airbridges? Doesn't seem like a lot for a new major airport.

7 wide body contact bays, or they can be used for 2 narrow bodies at once instead. 13 airbridges in total.

 

[Daver6]

I'd suspect all the aerorbdige gates are Flex gates that can switch between international and domestic use.

There is a lot of non-contact bays on both sides which could be used for the JQ (and potentially QFLink E190) operations as well, considering JQ will be the largest domestic carrier (building up to 10 aircraft) at WSI when it initially opens.

Why build a brand new airport that doesn't have enough airbridges though? Using stairs etc is so 1950s.

 

[HS-TQE]

I would tip the QF Group (both QFLink and JQ) would prefer to use the aerobridges where possible, but if there are some int'l departures at the same time, some of the JQ or QFLink flights would be pushed to the non-contact bays.

The only benefit if you're on a JQ or QFLink flight parked at a remote bay, it's a short walk from the terminal rather than getting a bus to the plane like in most other locations around the world.

 

[SYD]

Looks like only 7 airbridges? Doesn't seem like a lot for a new major airport.

Isn’t that 1 more than HBA?

Also, the comment that a second terminal will be duplicated on the other side. Has Sydney not learnt anything about having terminals far apart?!

The master plan has the existing terminal duplicated as a mirror image - so like a H shape*.

I might be wrong but even the current terminal isn’t the full length of half that “H”. So could be extended in 3 or so phases.

*there’s some artist impressions floating around with the full size terminal surrounded by aircraft but no apparent way for people to get to it!

 

[Daver6]

Isn’t that 1 more than HBA?

Burn. However, HBA isn't new. Wasn't it built by convicts a while back? I bet @RooFlyer has researched it and can tell us what the cattle runs were used for historically

 

[AuSammy]

Why build a brand new airport that doesn't have enough airbridges though? Using stairs etc is so 1950s.

You don't need aerobridges for a chief raison d'etre of the airport - freight - no self loading cargo.

Also the main initial passenger airline is JQ and they mostly haven't used them on flights I have been on.

 

[clifford]

You don't need aerobridges for a chief raison d'etre of the airport - freight

Quite so, and that's how it'll be for quite some time. And, as for Hoxton Park, don't you remember that there used to be an airfield there? I lived quite close to it for a while. Admittedly, things have moved on a bit since then....

Which Prime Minister can we thank for the joy of having Badgery's Creek?

 

[SYD]

Which Prime Minister can we thank for the joy of having Badgery's Creek?

Technically there’s a very long line if you include those who couldn’t make a decision…

 

[RooFlyer]

Also, the comment that a second terminal will be duplicated on the other side. Has Sydney not learnt anything about having terminals far apart?!

It'll be attached back-to-back.

Looks like only 7 airbridges? Doesn't seem like a lot for a new major airport.

Isn’t that 1 more than HBA?

Actually 7 more than HBA

Burn. However, HBA isn't new. Wasn't it built by convicts a while back? I bet @RooFlyer has researched it and can tell us what the cattle runs were used for historically

In 1948 in a major nation-building initiative PM Ben Chifley announced £760,000 to build a new airport at Llanherne. The airport has been sucking the Commonwealth teat ever since - so, thank you.

Llanherne was the name of a very early farm in the area and it is likely that convicts were employed cleating and levelling an early version of the runway.

Note that the entire WSI airport and transport works has been built in the time of the current expansion of HBA.

 

[dajop]

Note that the entire WSI airport and transport works has been built in the time of the current expansion of HBA.

Really? I’m not sure I believe you about this.

Surely the expansion of HBA wasn’t completed that quickly.

 

[AuSammy]

It'll be attached back-to-back.





Actually 7 more than HBA



In 1948 in a major nation-building initiative PM Ben Chifley announced £760,000 to build a new airport at Llanherne. The airport has been sucking the Commonwealth teat ever since - so, thank you.

Llanherne was the name of a very early farm in the area and it is likely that convicts were employed cleating and levelling an early version of the runway.

Note that the entire WSI airport and transport works has been built in the time of the current expansion of HBA.

Can someone please post the fact check URL