Virtue signalling: clutching at straws

[Melburnian1]

I wonder if expanding the ability to order meals online prior to a flight domestically would help reduce some of the food wastage?

But many of the 'meals' (on shorter flights) are take it or leave it one option only, and more correctly classified as 'snacks.'

For transcon flights and to DRW from Oz east coast, your suggestion may have merit.

 

[JohnK]

I wonder if expanding the ability to order meals online prior to a flight domestically would help reduce some of the food wastage?

I would go the other way if they really want to save money and waste.

Ask people to specify online if they don't want a meal. Assume that everyone else wants a meal.

 

[mannej]

I would go the other way if they really want to save money and waste.

Ask people to specify online if they don't want a meal. Assume that everyone else wants a meal.

I think we are both on the same page, easily integrated into the same page

 

[RooFlyer]

Best solution for domestic flights, perhaps with exception of BNE/SYD/MEL - PER (and maybe without that exception) is to have no 'meals' or 'snacks' but have 'buy on board' in economy. No, they probably wouldn't drop the price, as there would be costs in making available but at least it would get rid of the pretence of them serving a 'meal'. Water would have to still be offered.

Come to think of it, that's what Virgin does, doesn't it? But Qantas won't do it, as it would prick the illusion of them being a 'full service' airline and consequently justify their premium fares.

 

[odysseus]

Best solution for domestic flights, perhaps with exception of BNE/SYD/MEL - PER (and maybe without that exception) is to have no 'meals' or 'snacks' but have 'buy on board' in economy. No, they probably wouldn't drop the price, as there would be costs in making available but at least it would get rid of the pretence of them serving a 'meal'. Water would have to still be offered.

Come to think of it, that's what Virgin does, doesn't it? But Qantas won't do it, as it would prick the illusion of them being a 'full service' airline and consequently justify their premium fares.

If that's your thing, there's always Jetstar: https://www.jetstar.com/_/media/fil...||en-au&rev||3df8cb2aa34148b2ac611f5608ce8f41

 

[JohnK]

With Qantas airfares out of control JQ Plus bundle is looking more attractive by the day.

Sub $100 airfares for 10 SCs, 800 QFF points and $10 food and beverage credit beats anything QF has to offer.

Who would have thought.

 

[RooFlyer]

If that's your thing, there's always Jetstar: https://www.jetstar.com/_/media/fil...||en-au&rev||3df8cb2aa34148b2ac611f5608ce8f41

Jetstar is not my thing.

 

[RooFlyer]

Who would have thought.

Why would have thought that Jetstar would be cheaper than Qantas? Gee, I dunno

 

[Vic]

Woolworths have annouced that they've saved 600 million plastic bags in 3 months.

Pfft, that nothing. Virtue signalling, political correctness gone mad

 

[theblank]

Woolworths have annouced that they've saved 600 million plastic bags in 3 months.

Not really though, because now we have to buy plastic bags to put rubbish in, instead of using the shopping bags.

 

[mannej]

Woolworths have annouced that they've saved 600 million plastic bags in 3 months.

Pfft, that nothing. Virtue signalling, political correctness gone mad

The question here is how many of the multi-use bags end up as bin liners after a single use, and the rate of increase of the purchase of bin liners. As with anything you can make stats say what you want them to.

 

[Lynda2475]

Not really though, because now we have to buy plastic bags to put rubbish in, instead of using the shopping bags

Im still working my way through my stockpile created over years and years of shopping, probably have to start buying rubbish bags at end of next year!

 

[Vic]

Not really though, because now we have to buy plastic bags to put rubbish in, instead of using the shopping bags.

The question here is how many of the multi-use bags end up as bin liners after a single use, and the rate of increase of the purchase of bin liners. As with anything you can make stats say what you want them to.

Come on, be serious. Anyone who has actually stockpiled single use bags to use as rubbish bags knows full well the stockpile eventually gets too big and empty bags have to be dumped WITHOUT rubbish. Persumably not even the logic used above can justify throwing out purchased bin bags that are empty.

 

[mannej]

Come on, be serious. Anyone who has actually stockpiled single use bags to use as rubbish bags knows full well the stockpile eventually gets too big and empty bags have to be dumped WITHOUT rubbish. Persumably not even the logic used above can justify throwing out purchased bin bags that are empty.

I think you have missed my point

1) I have never thrown out single use bags without rubbish in them unless they have broken.

2) There are people who I know who will purchase the current 0.15c bags each time they shop as they use them as bin liners. As much as it drives me nuts, isn't this actually worse for the environment compared to the previous single use bags?

 

[alviau]

Well the thing here is a progressive change of habits, overtime. You start somewhere. You’re not required to use bin liners, if you must, you can can always purchase compostable ones (yes more expensive, but overtime become cheaper). And recycle as much of your soft plastics (wrappers, bags, etc) via a program like RedCycle available at Coles.

 

[Ausbt]

Good move on the straws. Anyhoo, in the MEL lounge right now which is a bit chaotic. Eating with a knife and spoon (yeah I know, 1st world and all that). Flight delays blah blah blah. Also no full strength Stella. Happens.

 

[theblank]

Anyone who has actually stockpiled single use bags to use as rubbish bags knows full well the stockpile eventually gets too big and empty bags have to be dumped WITHOUT rubbish.

No. Not true at all for all people, maybe just you, or a few.

 

[Lynda2475]

I've only ever thrown single use plastic bags out that had significant holes in them from first use (usually due to check-out person over filling the bag). After unpacking shopping I just folde them into little triangles and put then in a bigger paper bag in the pantry.

For a while shops were giving out those biodegradable single use plastic bags, they used to disintegrate when stored. if we went back to the large brown paper bags Franklins used to have in the early 80s, we'd all have biodegradeable/recyclable shopping bags that could also be used for trash bags without any guilt.

The supermarkets (and other stores) need to look at reducing the amount of plastic they are using elsewhere. If snackfoods are sealed in a foil wrapper inside a paperbox, they dont also need to wrap the box in plastic. Fruit and veg dont need to be wrapped in plastic either.

 

[drron]

Back in the 50s each apple or pear used to be individually wrapped in paper.That paper was then hung in the throne room for it's final use.

 

[JohnK]

Not really though, because now we have to buy plastic bags to put rubbish in, instead of using the shopping bags.

Or get more of the large clear produce plastic bags to put the rubbish in. We get just under 1 days use out of the bigger bags.