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Runway scare as jet wheel snaps | Herald Sun

Mr Purvinas yesterday called on Virgin Blue to conduct pre-flight safety checks before all flights.



He said that, unlike Qantas, Virgin planes were checked only once a day.

I know this is regarding DJ-821 but this is kind of a seperate topic on their maintenance. Can anyone shed light on this topic of Virgin Blue aircraft only being checked once a day? This is coming from the federal secretary of the Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association - Stephen Purvinas.
 
Runway scare as jet wheel snaps | Herald Sun



I know this is regarding DJ-821 but this is kind of a seperate topic on their maintenance. Can anyone shed light on this topic of Virgin Blue aircraft only being checked once a day? This is coming from the federal secretary of the Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association - Stephen Purvinas.
All aircraft operated by all operators have a schedule of maintenance. This is worked out based upon a combination of manufacturers requirements and individual operations and must ultimately be approved by the regulator. (CASA in Oz) Items of a repetitive nature are assessed by need and history as to when they are required to be completed. For example when an aircraft type is new the frequency of inspections is quite high and then 'adjusted' as proven necessary by experience. (This normally means the frequency is decreased) IF a problem becomes apparent then the inspection intervals are stepped up.

To say that aircraft are only inspected once per day is a stretch of the truth, but to say that many items are only inspected once per day is correct and appropriate.

One such example is that Qantas aircraft only have their engine oil checked and topped up once per day. If an individual engine is burning a little extra it will be flagged and checked more frequently.

What Stephen Purvinas is most probably saying is that the aircraft only have a 'daily inspection' once per day. It does not mean that appropriate items are not inspected more often when deemed necessary.

I hope that makes a little sense.
 
Given that the problem now appears to have been corrosion around the axle of the wheel causing it to fail while taxiing, it is most unlikely that the cause of the failure happened during that day and after the once-a-day engineering inspection. So why would anyone expect that a pre-flight inspection would have identified this mechanical failure when the once-a-day inspection had not found the problem in the day, days, weeks or even months before the part failed?

I would be asking Mr Purvinas why the members of his Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association had not identified the corrosion and rectified the problem before the part failed, as corrosion is not something that happens so quickly that it is not present at the once-a-day inspection but causes a part to fail before the next once-a-day inspection.

I cannot believe that inspections more regular than once-a-day would have identified this problem.

I expect before all DJ flights one of the pilots does a "walk around" visual inspection of the aircraft. One of the things they will be checking during this walk-around is the condition of the tyres. So if the pilot did not notice the axle was broken during his walk around, and the tug driver did not notice it was broken when disconnecting the towbar after puch-back, then I am led to believe the axle did not actually break until after push-back. So I do not believe a pre-flight inspection of the same type that Mr Purvinas says happens once-a-day would have identified the problem either.
 
Sorry but do we REALLY need ANOTHER thread on this incident?Surely it can be covered under the original?.:confused:
 
Sorry but do we REALLY need ANOTHER thread on this incident?Surely it can be covered under the original?.:confused:
IMHO tt is a separate topic - being more a general query on DJ maintenance than a specific incident.
 
All aircraft operated by all operators have a schedule of maintenance. This is worked out based upon a combination of manufacturers requirements and individual operations and must ultimately be approved by the regulator. (CASA in Oz) Items of a repetitive nature are assessed by need and history as to when they are required to be completed. For example when an aircraft type is new the frequency of inspections is quite high and then 'adjusted' as proven necessary by experience. (This normally means the frequency is decreased) IF a problem becomes apparent then the inspection intervals are stepped up.

To say that aircraft are only inspected once per day is a stretch of the truth, but to say that many items are only inspected once per day is correct and appropriate.

One such example is that Qantas aircraft only have their engine oil checked and topped up once per day. If an individual engine is burning a little extra it will be flagged and checked more frequently.

What Stephen Purvinas is most probably saying is that the aircraft only have a 'daily inspection' once per day. It does not mean that appropriate items are not inspected more often when deemed necessary.

I hope that makes a little sense.

Thanks for shedding some light.
 
I would be asking Mr Purvinas why the members of his Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association had not identified the corrosion and rectified the problem before the part failed

Brett Godfrey has indicated that the last major service was done by Lufthansa Technik, ( http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,25841698-36418,00.html ) so no doubt the union is going to be pushing their agenda... I presume they're also the ones who 'leaked' it to the press.
 
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Also remember that the Concorde was brought down by a stray piece of metal and tyre rubber from the Continental aircraft ahead of it.
 
To put these incidents in some sort of perspective I have attached the a link to ATSB reports for the week ending 17th July 2009.

For anyone worried about the 737 nose wheel have a look at the third incident on the list :!:


I hope your not picking on the work done at LTV by the good folks at Gippsland Aeronautics, they have done well with the Airvan and the test pilot is my old flying instructor who was an ex croppie!

The fruit bats seem to have had a bad month with aircraft, as has Rocky ATC and to a lesser extent Hamilton Is ATC (now that is a job I wanted to do), its always interesting to see what did not make the news!
 
I hope your not picking on the work done at LTV by the good folks at Gippsland Aeronautics, they have done well with the Airvan and the test pilot is my old flying instructor who was an ex croppie!
Definitely not picking on them. I actually flew the Airvan for a few circuits a month or so back. Must admit that it was actually quite easy, even though I had not flown a fixed wing a/c for quite some years. :cool:
 
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