VA to fly to SIN [Rumour?]

[dzinh]

Not quite. All the aircraft are certified to fly internationally.

The (cabin) crew however, aren't.

Ah, we got that off some flight crew today so was just updating! I would take your word over the FAs though

 

[V-332]

Not quite. All the aircraft are certified to fly internationally.

The (cabin) crew however, aren't.

Cabin crew don't need to be certified to operate international flights. You will find short haul cabin crew operating DPS, HKT and CCK and possibly any other international flights operated by a 737 or EJET.

There is however a possibility of an issue with operating certificates. The current A332s are being operated under the domestic AOC which is now majority intl owned (Virgin, NZ, EY and SQ). If VA want to send the 332s internationally they may be required to put them on the International AOC (Vaustralia) depending on traffic rights.

 

[Lowjhg]

Not quite. All the aircraft are certified to fly internationally.

The (cabin) crew however, aren't.

The cabin crew are certified to fly the asian domestic short haul routes to DPS and HKT.

 

[dzinh]

There is however a possibility of an issue with operating certificates. The current A332s are being operated under the domestic AOC which is now majority intl owned (Virgin, NZ, EY and SQ). If VA want to send the 332s internationally they may be required to put them on the International AOC (Vaustralia) depending on traffic rights.

That sounds about right like the conversation with a couple of flight crew today! The 2 new 332s are registered to operate internationally and will have in flight wifi system available...but that depends on VA if they want to put it in use. XFI was originally a kingfisher order but was offered to VA, crew can't wait to operate it as it has full crew rest facilities.

 

[Ansettaddict123]

That sounds about right like the conversation with a couple of flight crew today! The 2 new 332s are registered to operate internationally and will have in flight wifi system available...but that depends on VA if they want to put it in use. XFI was originally a kingfisher order but was offered to VA, crew can't wait to operate it as it has full crew rest facilities.

crew rest for 5 hour flights?! even the crew get to live it up

 

[dzinh]

crew rest for 5 hour flights?! even the crew get to live it up

Well since kingfisher ordered it with crew rest and all then it got hand balled to VA plus VA are desperate for them anyway for their INT routes!

 

[browski]

Any takers for ADL-SIN now that QF have pulled out?
As a Melbourne domestile, my hope is for VA to offer PER-SIN or ADL-SIN. (I'd even take a 737 service)

As an aside, are any of the rumours being confused with the additional VS service from HKG to SYD or MEL?

 

[brad330]

I know I'm dreaming... though CNS-SIN would be nice... (for CNS, that is).

A 73H service 3x weekly would be lovely. And the other 4x days it can do ADL-SIN. QF operated CNS-SIN with 73H so there isn't a range issue.

 

[lovestotravel]

VA are desperate for them anyway for their INT routes!

Where has VA said they are wanting to start more international routes ?

 

[Fruitcake]

QF operated CNS-SIN with 73H so there isn't a range issue.

That's true, but if you restrict capacity enough you can do almost any route with almost any aircraft. The key question would be whether it could be done economically. Of course VA seem to do OK on their other "long haul" capacity restricted 737 routes, but those are all into markets with heavy outbound demand.

 

[Fruitcake]

Where has VA said they are wanting to start more international routes ?

Where has dzinh said that VA said they are wanting to start more international routes?

 

[lovestotravel]

Where has dzinh said that VA said they are wanting to start more international routes?

Cool question bro

Pretty much every single post and of course the quote I was replying to

Well since kingfisher ordered it with crew rest and all then it got hand balled to VA plus VA are desperate for them anyway for their INT routes!

VA won't operate INT services on the 332 until they get XFI AND XFJ which will be registered with an international operating certificate as the current 6 332's have only domestic operating Certs. They're also looking at flying into HND.

From VA on Facebook just now:

Guys is it me or does it sound like VA are looking at the possibilities of flying to Berlin?

VA need to make the decision for the 787/350 now rather than later if they want to start growing and having more of a international presence just like VS. I love VA and want to fly exclusively with them on their metal but it's just not possible yet.

Im glad to see they are slowly expanding their int presence

That sounds about right like the conversation with a couple of flight crew today! The 2 new 332s are registered to operate internationally and will have in flight wifi system available...but that depends on VA if they want to put it in use. XFI was originally a kingfisher order but was offered to VA, crew can't wait to operate it as it has full crew rest facilities.

 

[dzinh]

As this is still a rumour and has not been confirmed or denied by VA then ill leave it at that, by all means what I've been posting have come from the 330 crew and is what they have been briefed on, whether or not VA intend to continue their decision to fly to SIN or HND is solely up to VA and is being looked into.

VA's 2 newer 332's would likely be the ones starting their INT operations IF they decide to go ahead and fly to SIN, HND pr wherever else they see profitable as they will be registered to operate Internationally and domestically as well as featuring a downstairs crew resting area for longer flights.

 

[williamsf1]

Where has VA said they are wanting to start more international routes ?

I know you can beleive everything in the news... but

Virgin Australia Is Considering Setting Up An International Hub In Singapore | Business Insider Australia

 

[lovestotravel]

SIN would provide a good opportunity (with QF giving up basically) but with SQ already offering an equal/better product I don't see the need

 

[Fruitcake]

Pretty much every single post and of course the quote I was replying to

As dzinh has confirmed in his post after yours, all of his posts have either consisted of crew rumours or personal desires. All the quotes you have given reflect that. dzinh never stated that VA had made any specific announcements about future international routes.

If you want speculation from a more authoritative source, there is this piece in the Australian:
Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

 

[dzinh]

Another rumour according to a lovely 332 FA today would be VA would like to start their INT prescence beginning at their partners hubs. Believe it or not is totally up to the individual. Rumours here and there can be fun, what's even better is when they start happening

 

[Fruitcake]

Rumours here and there can be fun, what's even better is when they start happening

Absolutely! This is one my favourite VA-related 'rumours' / speculation pieces:
Qantas & Virgin Australia look for new Asian partners: China Eastern for Qantas, Cathay for Virgin? | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

Cathay Pacific could be a strong partner for Virgin: besides network synergies, they both share a common competitor in Qantas. A stumbling block is that Cathay and Qantas are both members of oneworld, but Cathay is an ambivalent member, and either way global marketing alliances are losing muster as partnership dynamics revert to a bilateral focus.

 

[dajop]

SIN would provide a good opportunity (with QF giving up basically) but with SQ already offering an equal/better product I don't see the need

Yes, it's hard to see what VA could offer/fill as SQ/MI already have 120 services a week in each direction between Singapore and Australia (ie 17 services a day on average). Unless VA were to replace SQ or MI on some of these services, or find new unique timings or pick new routes with reasonable demand (Where? CNS? CBR? OOL? NTL?) it's hard to see how they would make it successful.

 

[under the radar]

Perfect for Per-Sin. I'd rather the VA 332 compared to the rust bucket QF 333

do you have facts to back up your claim!!!!!....the oldest QF333 is currently 9.8yrs old (the youngest is 7.6yrs) ...by your 'logic' most of the worlds airlines are flying 'rustbuckets'.
OMG...the first A380 entered service in 2007..thats 6yrs ago!!! rapidly reaching 'rustbucket' status!!