USA tourism down with Trump Slump attributed to travel ban

[whatmeworry]

A number of Tourism organisations/companies have reported a downturn in bookings to the USA since the election of Mr. Trump and his Travel bans.

Surry says airfare searches to the United States dropped in 102 of 122 countries since Mr. Trump’s inauguration.
According to Hopper, bookings to China are off nearly 46 percent, Saudi Arabia down 35 percent, Ireland dropped 32 percent and Mexico down 23 percent.

One notable exception, the travel site Hopper reports, is that travel bookings to Russia jumped 54 percent.

"Trump slump" seen in tourism industry connected to travel ban - CBS News

 

[RooFlyer]

Well, the USA is going to see less of me due to Obama's law preventing me from using an ESTA to visit, after I travel to Iran. I'll need a full visa, almost impossible for me to get due to my needing my passport to travel to Canada and Chile at short notice for work and hence unable to send it for a trip to Melbourne and American consulate.

Thanks a lot, Barry; Aussie hater.

 

[NZflygirl]

I'll still go but probably every other year and generally aiming for Cali (the non trumpers).
Have a few other places to visit eg SFO SEA DEN ORD +/- NYC

 

[LadyC]

Certainly less inclined to travel to the USA anytime soon because of the current travel bans and travellers reports.

 

[defurax]

Well, the USA is going to see less of me due to Obama's law preventing me from using an ESTA to visit, after I travel to Iran. I'll need a full visa, almost impossible for me to get due to my needing my passport to travel to Canada and Chile at short notice for work and hence unable to send it for a trip to Melbourne and American consulate.

Thanks a lot, Barry; Aussie hater.

Aren't you able to get a second Aussie passport? (I forget the technical name for these) You seem to meet the requirements I.e business travel that can't be rescheduled.

That being said, SWMBO recently asked me if she could avoid transiting in the US for an upcoming trip to Canada. In the end she preferred booking PE with CX and avoid LAX, than fly QF via the US.

 

[RooFlyer]

Concurrent passport. I've had one of those before.

Yes, I suppose I could apply (at enormous expense) then enter the B1-B2 thing, necessitating a trip to Melbourne.

But I resent Obama effectively characterising me as a higher security risk for the USA because I happened to take an organised Britsh group tour of Iran. To think how Australia supported the USA in so many military campaigns! I guess his administration thought I had a higher chance if being radicalised during a group tour to Iran than, say a few days in Lakemba ... or Saudi Arabia ... which mysteriously escaped his net, notwithstanding that country's demonstrated history of providing terrorists who attacked the USA.

I wonder if Barry had financial interests there?

 

[defurax]

... or Saudi Arabia ... which mysteriously escaped his net, notwithstanding that country's demonstrated history of providing terrorists who attacked the USA.

I wonder if Barry had financial interests there?

I agree that money is most likely at play here ( and also the level of information sharing by spooks I presume). Though, I was questioned extensively about a Saudi visa in my passport by a US border agent. It didn't help that the visa was only in arabic (goverment visit) so in the end I just said it wasn't my favourite place to spend time and he let me go (and I have Global Entry, so not used to being questioned anymore...)

 

[whatmeworry]

Concurrent passport. I've had one of those before.

Yes, I suppose I could apply (at enormous expense) then enter the B1-B2 thing, necessitating a trip to Melbourne.

But I resent Obama effectively characterising me as a higher security risk for the USA because I happened to take an organised Britsh group tour of Iran. To think how Australia supported the USA in so many military campaigns! I guess his administration thought I had a higher chance if being radicalised during a group tour to Iran than, say a few days in Lakemba ... or Saudi Arabia ... which mysteriously escaped his net, notwithstanding that country's demonstrated history of providing terrorists who attacked the USA.

I wonder if Barry had financial interests there?

You always keep forgetting to mention George W Bush brought in the ESTA... Not sure if your forgetful memory is due to possible political or racial reasons...

Trump's EO could have easily included the countries you mentioned, but let's not forget not about George W Bush going on holiday and dropping the ball on the warning that Bin Laden was about to attack.

 

[amaroo]

Happy to push on and travel where we want to visit. Just like we never let those terrorist atrocities change our travel plans to Paris .... can't see some domestic political chess manoeuvres drawing anywhere near the same level of concern.

Very much looking forward to more visits to Dallas and NYC later this year.

 

[dajop]

Why oh why do we have to put up with this cough (ie. people variously blaming Bush, Obama and Trump) when in all likelihood the US agencies made recommendation to the president about the best arrangements to protect homeland security (perhaps except the latest Trump 90 day thing). There is a reason we call it the LOTFAP on AFF, and it usually doesn't matter which president of which political persuasion is in power the net becomes tighter over time.

Notwithstanding this, going back to OT - the perceptions of the Trump's actions have probably contributed to increasing reluctance to travel to US. Whether the perceptions are grounded in truth or not doesn't really matter - if people act on them then probably valid to draw a connection between this and lower arrivals.

 

[eastwest101]

I would have thought that the rapid appreciation of the USD against nearly all currencies would also be responsible for a drop in interest in travelling to the USA from other countries.

 

[RooFlyer]

You always keep forgetting to mention George W Bush brought in the ESTA... Not sure if your forgetful memory is due to possible political or racial reasons...

Trump's EO could have easily included the countries you mentioned, but let's not forget not about George W Bush going on holiday and dropping the ball on the warning that Bin Laden was about to attack.

No, I haven't forgotten that 'W' brought in ESTA. A great innovation, doing away with those silly green forms and questions about 'moral turpitude'. Good ol' 'W' , facilitating travel to the USA from allies and friends like Australia. Hooray!

You seemed to have overlooked, due to maybe forgetful memory or racial reasons, that my post was about Obama's doing away with my ESTA if I participated in subversive tourism travel to Iran (which country Obama, strangely, had no problem in allowing to buy billions of $ of new Boeing aircraft ). US business with Iran good - Aussie holidays in Iran bad. 'Onya, Barry.

The question still hangs as to what Obama didn't include Saudi Arabia in his list. Raises questions about his business dealings, surely?

 

[ozjuice]

I'm going again in May and i can't wait. Couldn't care less about the politics of it all. Won't affect me and i will certainly enjoy every minute of it.

 

[drron]

Unfortunately I have to wait until December to go back to the USA.A great place to visit with very friendly people no matter what their politics or who their leader is.

 

[Cossie]

Aren't you able to get a second Aussie passport? (I forget the technical name for these) You seem to meet the requirements I.e business travel that can't be rescheduled.

That being said, SWMBO recently asked me if she could avoid transiting in the US for an upcoming trip to Canada. In the end she preferred booking PE with CX and avoid LAX, than fly QF via the US.

Very easy to fly direct with air canada and thus avoid the lotfap. But you may have your own reasons for not wanting to do that.

 

[defurax]

Very easy to fly direct with air canada and thus avoid the lotfap. But you may have your own reasons for not wanting to do that.

SWMBO barely manages to renew QF WP every year...so she needs the SC!
Is AC flying PE to Australia now? Have to admit I haven't followed AC fleet update in a long time.

 

[Cossie]

SWMBO barely manages to renew QF WP every year...so she needs the SC!
Is AC flying PE to Australia now? Have to admit I haven't followed AC fleet update in a long time.

Yes they are, well from Brisbane at least, we were looking at some flights in October a couple of days ago,.

 

[amaroo]

I see the Dutch have slapped a travel ban on the Turkish Foreign Minister.

Cue the outrage....

 

[cove]

We are going to Los Angeles today. Cannot see a need to vary our plans and our friends are already there having a great time. Less tourists means less clogged roads and it may just be weather to contend with seeing there was a thick fog just offshore from the airport.

 

[get me outta here]

I'll be in NYC all of May and am looking forward to it as usual. But, if I am delayed at LAX Immigration who is responsible and how is a new connection booked?