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Very sad approach to looking after other people. Trump was always going to make the rich people richer.

Of course the prevailing (trickle down) economic theory is that the benefits of tax cuts will flow through lower socioeconomic classes in terms of additional investment and employment. The extent of these effects of such are of course debatable.
 
Most of the business folks we deal with in the US will still vote for Trump. He cut their taxes.......

You must deal with some very wealthy people, as from reports, the vast majority of the money went to billionaires
 
You must deal with some very wealthy people, as from reports, the vast majority of the money went to billionaires

Facilitating the repatriation of corporate profits has stimulated manufacturing jobs and jobs for African-Americans and Hispanics in particular. Anyone who cares about economic prosperity is voting for Trump.
 
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Facilitating the repatriation of corporate profits has stimulated manufacturing jobs and jobs for African-Americans and Hispanics in particular. Anyone who cares about economic prosperity is voting for Trump.
Anyone who cares about living is not. That is the demographic that is particularly bearing the brunt of his appalling pandemic response. :(
 
Anyone who cares about living is not. That is the demographic that is particularly bearing the brunt of his appalling pandemic response. :(

Anyone who cares about living is aghast at the terrorism being perpetrated by Antifa and BLM in Portland, Minneapolis, New York, etc. But I do agree that the insane left-wing Democratic Governors and Mayors have done a terrible job handling the Wuhan flu crisis, hence the highest death tolls are in blue states. Perhaps Trump should have declared a state of emergency and locked up those corrupt leaders on national security and public health grounds so the pandemic could have been dealt with more effectively. Nobody should ever forgive people like Andrew Cuomo for sending diseased patients to nursing homes and causing mass deaths of the aged.
 
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Anyone who cares about living is aghast at the terrorism being perpetrated by Antifa and BLM in Portland, Minneapolis, New York, etc. But I do agree that the insane left-wing Democratic Governors and Mayors have done a terrible job handling the Wuhan flu crisis, hence the highest death tolls are in blue states. Perhaps Trump should have declared a state of emergency and locked up those corrupt leaders on national security and public health grounds so the pandemic could have been dealt with more effectively. Nobody should ever forgive people like Andrew Cuomo for sending diseased patients to nursing homes and causing mass deaths of the aged.

Elucidate us on why there has not been a single riot or major disturbance since the day Trump's goons were withdrawn from Portland. Also why it was necessary for his troops to attack and tear gas unarmed middle aged mothers with their children walking the streets peacefully with signs? Why would armed military members travel the streets in unmarked cars without name badges in fatigues and drag unarmed civilians away randomly without identifying themselves, without reading them their rights and without them having broken any law?
 
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Elucidate us on why there has not been a single riot or major disturbance since the day Trump's goons were withdrawn from Portland. Also why it was necessary for his troops to attack and tear gas unarmed middle aged mothers with their children walking the streets peacefully with signs? Why would armed military members travel the streets in unmarked cars without name badges in fatigues and drag unarmed civilians away randomly without identifying themselves, reading them their rights and without them having broken any law?

That is unsubstantiated left-wing propaganda.

It is true, however, that rioting is decreasing courtesy of the successful Operation Legend, which has achieved thousands of arrests against the domestic terrorists looting, burning, vandalising and assaulting on the streets of major cities. AG Barr is doing a terrific job.
 
That is unsubstantiated left-wing propaganda.

It is true, however, that rioting is decreasing courtesy of the successful Operation Legend, which has achieved thousands of arrests against the domestic terrorists looting, burning, vandalising and assaulting on the streets of major cities. AG Barr is doing a terrific job.
I guess vision supplied by, and multiple eye witness accounts by most major news networks of the world constitutes unsubstantiated propaganda in your eyes.
 
Anyone who cares about living is aghast at the terrorism being perpetrated by Antifa and BLM in Portland, Minneapolis, New York, etc. But I do agree that the insane left-wing Democratic Governors and Mayors have done a terrible job handling the Wuhan flu crisis, hence the highest death tolls are in blue states. Perhaps Trump should have declared a state of emergency and locked up those corrupt leaders on national security and public health grounds so the pandemic could have been dealt with more effectively. Nobody should ever forgive people like Andrew Cuomo for sending diseased patients to nursing homes and causing mass deaths of the aged.
Stop it. My sides are killing me. 🤣
 
I have no idea whether the allegations against tictoc are well founded (on balance probably are). Will be interesting to see how the courts rule in regard to the executive order - see ABC article below.

What is not clear (other than tictoc being utilised exhaustively to lampoon Trump) is why the same attention has not been paid to wechat which is well known for its censorship, monitoring of all, and interception of some, user communications, and continuous exchange of user data with the CCP. Yet crickets from the Whitehouse.


TikTok challenges Donald Trump's executive order banning social media platform
 
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@p- -and- -t the business folks we deal with in the US have mostly done well. If you have a business making products a good rule of thumb is 10% of turnover would be a good profit result. 21% tax helps them a lot. They don’t need to be billionaires.
Trump has damaged many US alliances so I won’t miss him if his use by date expires.
 
@p- -and- -t the business folks we deal with in the US have mostly done well. If you have a business making products a good rule of thumb is 10% of turnover would be a good profit result. 21% tax helps them a lot. They don’t need to be billionaires.
Trump has damaged many US alliances so I won’t miss him if his use by date expires.
Talking about the billionaires, and getting a bit OT here, but even millionaires may apply for membership of Mar-a-Lago. Only $US200,000 to become a member, and $15,000pa thereafter. Gets you to a dinner reservation, golf and probably stay for less than $2,000pn.

I read this snippet somewhere:

“... After Post’s* death in 1973, the cost of the upkeep of Mar-a-Lago became too much to handle for the Federal Government (to which Post had willed it). Donald Trump offered the Post family $25 million for it (according to him), but they rejected him. Trump then purchased the property between Mar-a-Lago and the ocean, threatening to build a house there that would block their views. He eventually bought Mar-a-Lago in 1985 for a mere $8 million, which got him the property along with its impressive furnishings and antiques ... unlike other “old money” resorts in Palm Beach, Mar-a-Lago accepted Jews, black people, and other minorities as members ...”

* Marjory Post
 
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Talking about the billionaires, and getting a bit OT here, but even millionaires may apply for membership of Mar-a-Lago. Only $US200,000 to become a member, and $15,000pa thereafter. Gets you to a dinner reservation, golf and probably stay for less than $2,000pn.

I read this snippet somewhere:

“... After Post’s* death in 1973, the cost of the upkeep of Mar-a-Lago became too much to handle for the Federal Government (to which Post had willed it). Donald Trump offered the Post family $25 million for it (according to him), but they rejected him. Trump then purchased the property between Mar-a-Lago and the ocean, threatening to build a house there that would block their views. He eventually bought Mar-a-Lago in 1985 for a mere $8 million, which got him the property along with its impressive furnishings and antiques ... unlike other “old money” resorts in Palm Beach, Mar-a-Lago accepted Jews, black people, and other minorities as members ...”

* Emily Post
Membership is full so I heard!
 
Anyone who cares about living is aghast at the terrorism being perpetrated by Antifa and BLM in Portland, Minneapolis, New York, etc. But I do agree that the insane left-wing Democratic Governors and Mayors have done a terrible job handling the Wuhan flu crisis, hence the highest death tolls are in blue states. Perhaps Trump should have declared a state of emergency and locked up those corrupt leaders on national security and public health grounds so the pandemic could have been dealt with more effectively. Nobody should ever forgive people like Andrew Cuomo for sending diseased patients to nursing homes and causing mass deaths of the aged.
What happened in the early days was undoubtedly tragic but there was so little understood at that time. Information that came out of New York re inflammation and deaths in younger patients from strokes really helped in preventing deaths as the virus spread.

let’s have a look at some stats in more recent days. California did get the virus early and deaths have continued. Florida and Texas were very late to start getting infected. However deaths per million:-

California. 307
Texas. 404
Florida. 479
 
Yes, membership is capped at about 500, so you will need wait until someone is kicked out or moves on for some other reason.

So on the surface, could be one of his better investments, presumably helped by his current position.

From other reports his hotels (in NYC particularly) have been doing very well from diplomats and other government officials seeking to be looked upon more favourably.
 
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