Turkish RTW Business - allocate points where?

[Cosmo]

Overwhelmed on which airline to nominate for ff points on RWT.
I have just flown Qatar from Brisbane Doha Madrid and return - economy and allocated Qatar Avios points as can be used for qantas.

Have now booked RTW Business with Turkish airlines from Bris Singapore Istanbul Vancouver and return.
Even though Turkish airlines RWT tix the Bris to Singapore is on Qantas code share? and the Vancouver back to Australia is on AirCanada so obviously also codeshare with Turkish airlines.

Need help big time on what frequent flyer allocation will give me most benefit and if its beneficial is it possible to use different FF for different flights or needs to be one FF for complete trip? - Hoping to be able to use both Qatar points and the RTW points when they all come in most beneficial way. cheers

 

[RichardMEL]

Air Canada (AC) and Turkish (TK) are Star Alliance carriers and have zero to do with QF. The problem with the QF codeshare (I assume BNE-SIN?) is that if it's issued as a TK flight number (or something else) then QF won't care. If it's the QF flight number, then you could assign that flight to your QR FF#

the others though, you'd want to choose a Star Alliance program to credit to. I won't suggest one (ans the QF forum is not the best place for that discussion) because many have their pros and cons and can depend on projected future travel and what you might want to do with them. TK may be a good option given the majority of flights will be on TK metal, but you'd want to carefully weigh up the pros and cons of each programs (for example, many Aussies would potentially prefer to earn with SQ or NZ being more "local").

Noting TK will begin flying to Aus next year, that is another factor one may want to consider for future flying.

good luck with your decisions and enjoy your RTW trip!

 

[andye]

This can be complicated as the Oneworld crediting rules are different to Star Alliance

OW accrual goes by the flight number on your ticket. In most cases, if you have a oneworld ticket on a non-OW carrier (metal) you can only accrue to the program of the ticket (an exception is a QF number on an Emirates flight which you can credit to British Airways also). If it's a OW ticket on OW metal you can credit to any OW program

Star accrual goes by the operating carrier (metal). If you have a Star flight number on non-star metal, you may be able to accrue to the ticketing program but often you get nothing. If it's a Star ticket on Star metal you can credit to any Star program

The accrual rates for points can be found at wheretocredit.com-however the booking class for Star flights might be different from the one you see if you have a codeshare.

Status attainment is complicated as different programs have different thresholds and needs for flights on own carriers. There is a good AFF summary here https://www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au/earn-star-alliance-status/

I suspect you will be best to credit the whole trip to TK but is perfectly possible to credit to different programs each leg by getting them to change the boarding pass at each airport

 

[andye]

Another consideration is that the Air Canada program often has the option to buy miles at a discount which could top-up the ones you have earned. The AC redemption rules are quite generous in mixing airlines on redemption tickets and can include VA

 

[mew]

Overwhelmed on which airline to nominate for ff points on RWT.
I have just flown Qatar from Brisbane Doha Madrid and return - economy and allocated Qatar Avios points as can be used for qantas.

Have now booked RTW Business with Turkish airlines from Bris Singapore Istanbul Vancouver and return.
Even though Turkish airlines RWT tix the Bris to Singapore is on Qantas code share? and the Vancouver back to Australia is on AirCanada so obviously also codeshare with Turkish airlines.

Need help big time on what frequent flyer allocation will give me most benefit and if its beneficial is it possible to use different FF for different flights or needs to be one FF for complete trip? - Hoping to be able to use both Qatar points and the RTW points when they all come in most beneficial way. cheers

I recently flew on a Lufthansa RTW ticket which included both Star and OW metal.
The Star legs, Per-Sin-Fra-YVR were all LH tickets numbers and SQ and AC metal. Points sent to SQ.
The OW leg, YVR to SYD had a QF ticket number and QF metal, points to QF.

As a side note, on arrival in FRA, was refused entry to the LH business arrival lounge even though I had a LH ticket number on my arriving boarding pass, as I did not arrive on LH metal!

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Join SQ KF if you haven't, the miles then can be transferred to VFF. at a 35% discount.
TA (Turkish Air) is in *A, so you can earn KF miles, all the airline FF program miles do expire, so if you value the points, go for one thats of value to you in Aust.
VFF and QFF points do not expire, so long as there is activity, others do, ie, SQ have a life of 3 years, not sure how long TA's own points last.
Airpoint $ with AirNZ have a life of 4 years, they are in *A too, but their Airpoint$ can't be transferred to VFF.
Its a tough one, juggling points earn, you have to be on the ball, and ask for and keep paper BP from this trip, to assist with points claim,
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Also have to make sure, all classes of travel are eligible classes to earn.

 

[Cosmo]

Thanks everyone for your replies and help. Gives me a much better idea of what I need to think thru before deciding cheers

 

[Mwenenzi]

Overwhelmed on which airline to nominate for ff points on RWT.
I have just flown Qatar from Brisbane Doha Madrid and return - economy and allocated Qatar Avios points as can be used for qantas.

Have now booked RTW Business with Turkish airlines from Bris Singapore Istanbul Vancouver and return.
Even though Turkish airlines RWT tix the Bris to Singapore is on Qantas code share? and the Vancouver back to Australia is on AirCanada so obviously also codeshare with Turkish airlines.

Need help big time on what frequent flyer allocation will give me most benefit and if its beneficial is it possible to use different FF for different flights or needs to be one FF for complete trip? - Hoping to be able to use both Qatar points and the RTW points when they all come in most beneficial way. cheers

Are you 100% sure flights are codeshares? That is XX marketed (flight number) and ZZ operated. E-ticket issued?

• Turkish airlines RWT tix the Bris to Singapore is on Qantas code share
• AirCanada so obviously also codeshare with Turkish airlines.

And not native flights? [QF marketed (flight number) and QF operated; AC marketed (flight number) and AC operated; etc]
Would be surprised if TK-QF have codeshares.
Who issues the ticket less important, but can effect revenue based ffp's.

As above cross alliance code shares are problematic. Can earn nil or at times to 1 of the 2 airlines if they have agreements (e.g. AF-KLM & QF).
Having many ffp's is a waste. Better to credit to 1 ffp, even if earnings are "lower".
With orphan ffp's can get few miles/points/avios so can never be used.
Consider expiry and for awards earn to burn/cash co pay.
A broad guide. But check each ffp web site.-->

Where to Credit | How Many Miles | Every Frequent Flyer Program

Find the best frequent flyer program for every flight. Where to Credit shows you the number of miles you earn on any frequent flyer program!

www.wheretocredit.com

 

[Cosmo]

Air Canada (AC) and Turkish (TK) are Star Alliance carriers and have zero to do with QF. The problem with the QF codeshare (I assume BNE-SIN?) is that if it's issued as a TK flight number (or something else) then QF won't care. If it's the QF flight number, then you could assign that flight to your QR FF#

the others though, you'd want to choose a Star Alliance program to credit to. I won't suggest one (ans the QF forum is not the best place for that discussion) because many have their pros and cons and can depend on projected future travel and what you might want to do with them. TK may be a good option given the majority of flights will be on TK metal, but you'd want to carefully weigh up the pros and cons of each programs (for example, many Aussies would potentially prefer to earn with SQ or NZ being more "local").

Noting TK will begin flying to Aus next year, that is another factor one may want to consider for future flying.

good luck with your decisions and enjoy your RTW trip!

Cheers

 

[Cosmo]

Join SQ KF if you haven't, the miles then can be transferred to VFF. at a 35% discount.
TA (Turkish Air) is in *A, so you can earn KF miles, all the airline FF program miles do expire, so if you value the points, go for one thats of value to you in Aust.
VFF and QFF points do not expire, so long as there is activity, others do, ie, SQ have a life of 3 years, not sure how long TA's own points last.
Airpoint $ with AirNZ have a life of 4 years, they are in *A too, but their Airpoint$ can't be transferred to VFF.
Its a tough one, juggling points earn, you have to be on the ball, and ask for and keep paper BP from this trip, to assist with points claim,
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Also have to make sure, all classes of travel are eligible classes to earn.

Big thanks

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Just saw you are going J, Au - ISB - YVR, with TK.
In regards to KF, you might be PPS Elite Silver, by the return flights are completed.
Not a lot of beneficial(ness) till you get to PPS Elite Gold, but if you can do more longer flights in SQ J, you could be PPS Elite Gold in no time.
With PPS Elite Gold, you can get a lot of lounge entries around the world.
Guess it depends on how many more int trips you have to do.
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Need 50,000 KF miles to be PPS Elite Gold.
Your trip BNE - SIN - IST - YVR one way, earns 18,914, x 2 is 37,828 in subclass D.
If they put you into a higher subclass, the better.
If in the same year, you can fly with *A and earn 12,172 more KF miles, you are then PPS Elite Gold for the next year.

 

[Cosmo]

Just saw you are going J, Au - ISB - YVR, with TK.
In regards to KF, you might be PPS Elite Silver, by the return flights are completed.
Not a lot of beneficial(ness) till you get to PPS Elite Gold, but if you can do more longer flights in SQ J, you could be PPS Elite Gold in no time.
With PPS Elite Gold, you can get a lot of lounge entries around the world.
Guess it depends on how many more int trips you have to do.

Cheers

 

[RichardMEL]

Just saw you are going J, Au - ISB - YVR, with TK.
In regards to KF, you might be PPS Elite Silver, by the return flights are completed.
Not a lot of beneficial(ness) till you get to PPS Elite Gold, but if you can do more longer flights in SQ J, you could be PPS Elite Gold in no time.
With PPS Elite Gold, you can get a lot of lounge entries around the world.
Guess it depends on how many more int trips you have to do.
---
Need 50,000 KF miles to be PPS Elite Gold.
Your trip BNE - SIN - IST - YVR one way, earns 18,914, x 2 is 37,828 in subclass D.
If they put you into a higher subclass, the better.
If in the same year, you can fly with *A and earn 12,172 more KF miles, you are then PPS Elite Gold for the next year.

You are incorrect.

PPS is different to KF elite status earn and is specific to SQ F and J cabin flying.

PPS earn is ONLY for SGD equivalent spend on SQ metal flights. SQ Silver yeah, but not PPS. Interestingly it also includes codeshares on SQ metal: "If you fly in Business or First Class on a codeshare flight, you'll earn PPS Value if your journey's on a Singapore Airlines aircraft." (not relevant to the OPs RTW)

Please do research before posting misleading/incorrect information