"TrouserGate" - Australian Cricketers Caught Ball Tampering

[sjk]

Does anyone believe there was an entirely innocent explanation for all that tape Warner was using in the first couple of tests?

 

[Rallo]

Cricket Australia have hardly covered themselves in glory in this.

I think a lot of what has happened is based on some simmering discontent that the Australia public has had with cricket for a few years.

CA have a lot of work to do....

They can start by sacking Sutherland who has been completely inept throughout this whole scenario.

 

[Pushka]

It has seemingly caught everyone unawares. All of it.

 

[VPS]

Piers Morgan‏Verified account @piersmorgan Mar 30
Agonising to see @stevesmith49 such a broken man. He's a good guy who made a dumb mistake & is now paying massive consequences. But he didn't kill anyone, dope or match fix - and he's faced up to what he did with painful honesty. Time to call off the dogs.

Piers Morgan‏Verified account @piersmorgan Mar 30
Smith's admitted his offence & accepted his draconian punishment. Wiggins was caught cheating, did something 10x worse, refuses to admit it & remains a knight of the realm.

Piers Morgan‏Verified account @piersmorgan 49m49 minutes ago
I think you massively underestimate the life-changing impact this scandal has had on them all. They deserve no sympathy, but nor do they deserve this hysterically OTT public execution.

Interesting when Piers Morgan and Shane Warne are the voices of reason out there. Have no time for Morgan but he is making sense here

 

[sjk]

hysterically OTT public execution

Nah.

 

[Pushka]

Piers Morgan‏Verified account @piersmorgan Mar 30
Agonising to see @stevesmith49 such a broken man. He's a good guy who made a dumb mistake & is now paying massive consequences. But he didn't kill anyone, dope or match fix - and he's faced up to what he did with painful honesty. Time to call off the dogs.

Piers Morgan‏Verified account @piersmorgan Mar 30
Smith's admitted his offence & accepted his draconian punishment. Wiggins was caught cheating, did something 10x worse, refuses to admit it & remains a knight of the realm.

Piers Morgan‏Verified account @piersmorgan 49m49 minutes ago
I think you massively underestimate the life-changing impact this scandal has had on them all. They deserve no sympathy, but nor do they deserve this hysterically OTT public execution.

Interesting when Piers Morgan and Shane Warne are the voices of reason out there. Have no time for Morgan but he is making sense here

I was asking our Brit future DIL about all this. She says they don’t hold sportsmen in the same high esteem as we do here; they expect the scandals and the messing around with partners and pretty much the cheating. Such low expectations that they don’t get upset when such stuff happens.

 

[love_the_life]

Sure. But his delivery was more emotional than I expected. I’m not a Warner fan and was surprised. But haven’t converted to being a fan. After his answers that will not happen.

Consensus on the sports show radio here is that he just made the situation 10 times worse.

Though somehow watching all these media clips I can’t shake the feeling that when people are caught out they think that by shedding tears, they will sound more contrite and garner support from the public. Maybe I’m just cynical.

 

[TomVexille]

As I said before South African fans need to look in their own backyard cause they have their captain who has been done twice.

It would also seem Faf continues to conveniently leave the zipper tampering out of his pressers when asked about his charges, because he knows that a zipper roughs up a ball exactly the same way as sandpaper does. On that has anyone else ever played crickets in whites with zippers? I honestly can't think of a pair of cricket whites I've owned that have them.

Anyway I wonder when Warner is going to speak, also anyone watch Sutherlands presser last night?

My GN cricket pants have a zip fly (and an elastic waist). So yes, they do exist.

 

[VPS]

Nah.

disagree

 

[JohnK]

When asked twice if anyone else is involved, he avoided the question. That hardly puts the issue to bed

Protecting one another. We may never find out.

Interesting reading the Steve Waugh article weighing in on cricinfo. Our sledging has been disgusting through the years.

 

[VPS]

I was asking our Brit future DIL about all this. She says they don’t hold sportsmen in the same high esteem as we do here; they expect the scandals and the messing around with partners and pretty much the cheating. Such low expectations that they don’t get upset when such stuff happens.

I think the Brits are enjoying the Australian cricket team suffering because we have been dominant against them for so long and surprised that Steve Smith crying was on the front page of many of the UK papers as a report but the Daily Mail (scum) had a picture of Smith that said Captain Cry Baby

 

[Pushka]

I think the Brits are enjoying the Australian cricket team suffering because we have been dominant against them for so long and surprised that Steve Smith crying was on the front page of many of the UK papers as a report but the Daily Mail (scum) had a picture of Smith that said Captain Cry Baby

That’s interesting. They don’t mind getting nasty with the opposition but not their own. British don’t cry.

Protecting one another. We may never find out.

Interesting reading the Steve Waugh article weighing in on cricinfo. Our sledging has been disgusting through the years.

Not actually protecting but potentially threw everyone under the bus.

 

[sjk]

Our sledging has been disgusting through the years.

Graeme Smith back in 2002:

He claimed fast bowler Brett Lee had threatened to "f---ing kill me" after a mid-pitch collision, and described Glenn McGrath as "a grumpy old man" after a prolonged verbal campaign, even when the pace spearhead was fielding near the boundary.

Smith said Hayden had followed him to the crease in his second innings and "stood on the crease for about two minutes telling me that I wasn't f---ing good enough".

Smith told the magazine: "'You know, you're not f---ing good enough,' he told me. 'How the f--- are you going to handle Shane Warne when he's bowling in the rough? What the f--- are you going to do?'.

"And I hadn't even taken guard yet. He stood there right in my face, repeating it over and over. All I could manage was a shocked, nervous smile. I'd taken a bit of banter before but this was something else. Hayden had obviously been told that his job was to attack me."

Smith said he was then subjected to more of the same from a ring of close-in fieldsmen - Justin Langer, Ricky Ponting, Gilchrist, Mark Waugh and Shane Warne.

While sledging, or "mental disintegration" as Steve Waugh calls it, is accepted as an unsettling tactic, Smith's claims suggest some Australians may not be as imaginative as they once were.

"All Warne does is call you a c--- all day," said Smith, who tangled with the leg-spinner early on after one edged single.

"When he walked past me he said: 'You f---ing c---, what are you doing here?'

(...)

Smith's verdict was that there was "never anything funny about the sledging. It was all just harsh".

SMH article: Bucket tipped on Aussie sledgers

 

[RB]

That’s interesting. They don’t mind getting nasty with the opposition but not their own. British don’t cry.


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[Pushka]

I was quoting my British DIL. I think maybe you should put me on your ignore list.

 

[Daver6]

Murray is a Scott when he loses, but British when he wins

 

[RB]

I was quoting my British DIL. I think maybe you should put me on your ignore list.

The idea was to show the DIL

 

[VPS]

I think those photos of crying are different to crying in an interview - those are the emotions of winning a game not being grilled by the media

 

[JohnK]

SMH article: Bucket tipped on Aussie sledgers

You start to lose respect for certain players when the stories come out.

McGrath and Sarwan in 2002 was ugly. It was a shame McGraths wife was mentioned but you can't abuse and taunt someone that way and expect them to just take it.

McGrath appears to have heavily dished it out a lot with flithy language. Not good.

 

[RB]

I think those photos of crying are different to crying in an interview - those are the emotions of winning a game not being grilled by the media

Those in the photos didn't win .
My thoughts are that the 3 grillings by the press served no purpose and I didn't watch them. I think everyone knew what was going to happen beforehand. To me the grillings were bullying at its worst and I don't think it was an acceptable way to move forward-I know people will disagree & that is fine by me.