Travel Insurance for terrorism related issues

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But Brussels is in shut down, subways shut imminent mass causality attack threat they are looking for that evil bast...d I won't the scums his name he does not deserve it
 
We have a Corporate Policy with Chubb - I asked our broker to check specifics of following:
1. Terrorist attacks
2. Volcanic ash - we are heading to Bali for XMAS
The response:

I can confirm the intent of cover under Section 4 (Loss of Deposits, Cancellation & Curtailment) of our Corporate Travel product offering is to provide cover for unforeseen circumstances outside the control of the policyholder and insured person. Furthermore, the measure of a foreseeable circumstance is applicable to the point in time when travel and/or accommodation for a journey is first booked.

I would like to take this opportunity to highlight some exclusions which may also be of relevance, including:

Exclusion 5 under Section 4 (Loss of Deposits, Cancellation & Curtailment)

We will not be liable to pay loss, cost or expense arising from or attributable to any change of plans or disinclination on the part of the insured person or of any other person to undertake the journey.

Exclusion 6 under Section 12 (Political Unrest & Natural Disaster Evacuation)

We will not be liable to pay loss, cost or expense arising from or attributable to the political unrest or natural disaster that resulted in the insured person’s evacuation being in existence prior to the insured person entering the country or its occurrence being foreseeable to a reasonable person before the insured person entered the country.

I understand that our mutual client is seeking clarity on how this policy will respond in the above circumstance. I’m sure you can appreciate that hypothetical claim scenarios by nature are difficult to respond to in a definitive manner, however we hope the above policy intent and interpretation assists.


As mentioned with our phone conversation, the DFAT travel advice is key with regards to travelling. with this case travel to Paris. Therefore, prior to travel we recommend you keep an eye on such to remain within the knowledge of the current situation.

Naturally all claims will be assessed based on prevailing circumstances and within the confines of the policy terms and conditions.
I won't post Policy but I think you will all get the gist - hope this is of assistance.
 
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Isn't insurance a wonderful money spinner?

It might be, and there are some hefty commissions out there. Those who choose to pay retail price for their policies may be at a disadvantage.

You can get pretty much free comprehensive insurance through a couple of cards (ANZ platinum being one of them).
 
It might be, and there are some hefty commissions out there. Those who choose to pay retail price for their policies may be at a disadvantage.

You can get pretty much free comprehensive insurance through a couple of cards (ANZ platinum being one of them).

We've got access to about a dozen insurance policies via CC. Happy to pay for an outright policy. Money well spent IMO.
 
We've got access to about a dozen insurance policies via CC. Happy to pay for an outright policy. Money well spent IMO.

I guess that's part of the issue. If you get identical cover for free, it's a good money spinner for those companies that can still get you to part with your cash for no additional benefit.
 
Situation becomes extremely blurry where multiple flight redemptions undertaken throughout a year with FF pts derived from multiple cards - as always we all have differing situations which require differing approaches.
 
Situation becomes extremely blurry where multiple flight redemptions undertaken throughout a year with FF pts derived from multiple cards - as always we all have differing situations which require differing approaches.

Indeed. Insurance is dirt cheap. I like traveling in 5* comfort, and 6* security.
 
Centurion insurance is best I have seen by far - I valued that component at around $1K - unfortunately couldn't justify the other $4K. Prestige insurance also good but like all card insurances has limitations with flight redemptions. $1K buys you a lot of peaceful nights.
 
... but like all card insurances has limitations with flight redemptions.

What limitations with flight redemptions did you have in mind? ANZ covers you for award flights, paying you back in cash at the full retail price for the flight in the event of disruption (if the airline won't refund the points). ANZ doesn't care where your points come from, even if they are accrued through credit cards of a competing bank.
 
MEL if ANZ works for you go for it - but it won't suit everyone.

What if our employees who are not the cardholders or supp card holders travel on pts? Their spouses and children? Our part time employees who travel interstate to watch a football game? Dozens of reasons why CC insurance coverage insufficient.
 
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We're coming up for the renewal of our annual multi-trip policy - an annual PITA doing the research. We also have multiple insurance cover from cards, but from memory we felt we needed the separate policy for serious coverage - YMMV. Already annoyed by the thought of crunching the numbers again.
 
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MEL if ANZ works for you go for it - ok if others hold a different view?

What if our employees who are not the cardholders or supp card holders travel on pts? Their spouses and children? Our part time employees who travel interstate to watch a football game? Dozens of reasons why CC insurance coverage insufficient.

That's a different issue/set of issues.

You said 'all cards have limitations with respect to redemptions'. I was just asking what you had in mind, because I can't find one with ANZ.

I think it is somewhat unfair to people who might be concerned about whether their cover is adequate to be persuaded into buying a costly policy that they don't need if their CC will cover them to the same extent and levels of a paid policy.
 
MEL - post #23 - we have a Corporate Policy - I certainly don't intend getting into a debate with you.
 
I guess that's part of the issue. If you get identical cover for free, it's a good money spinner for those companies that can still get you to part with your cash for no additional benefit.

".... for free ...." ???

Sometimes hard to juggle:

1) Minimum $250 spent on card prior to travel

2) At least 50% travel costs on card

Not everyone has the same circumstances.

What can you prepay when 'everything' has been organised & paid for ?

What's the definition of 50% costs when you're traveling on points ?

Etc ...
 
".... for free ...." ???

Sometimes hard to juggle:

1) Minimum $250 spent on card prior to travel

2) At least 50% travel costs on card

Not everyone has the same circumstances.

What can you prepay when 'everything' has been organised & paid for ?

What's the definition of 50% costs when you're traveling on points ?

Etc ...

ANZ only applies (1), not (2). Taxes fees and charges would generally cover $250 spend, and almost certainly if there are couple flying ($125 each). Otherwise for an individual, taxes, fees and charges plus a single hotel night, or domestic connection etc.

i agree if you're going to be outside the eligibility criteria you must buy a separate policy, but that wasn't the focus of my original point... which is that insurance doesn't need to always be a 'money spinner'.
 
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