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Pushka said:
Yeah. Can't buy class with a first class ticket. I wonder what she was thinking with her feet driving it back.
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I'm always amused by certain people who think that buying (either directly or indirectly) X, Y or Z somehow changes who they are or their default personalities. Class is the ability to always be polite, no matter the circumstances, without diminishing yourself or others - that's why it's class, not cough. Unflappable, as it used to be called.

You can't buy class - although if you use your money for non-'name buying' philanthropy it's possible to gain a little class (as a small side-effect). Sadly most of Australia's wealthiest are - in comparison to other countries - aren't overly inclined to such activity and rarely without it going through their own 'named' charity or for naming rights (and if it weren't for tax concessions I suspect it'd be a very small pool indeed). Everyday Australians give more (as percentage of income) than our own rich list.
 
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Now,now/Rich Australians aren't that bad.at least 3 donations of over $50,000,000 last year not counting the Myer and Murdoch foundations.Australians have never been ones to blow their own trumpet.
As for tax deductions they are more generous in the US.Also many US states have death duties so giving to charity can be very effective in tax planning.So the US donors have more incentive than Australians.
Twiggy Forrest has pledged to give away at least half of his wealth before he leaves this earth.
 
drron said:
Now,now/Rich Australians aren't that bad.at least 3 donations of over $50,000,000 last year not counting the Myer and Murdoch foundations.Australians have never been ones to blow their own trumpet.
As for tax deductions they are more generous in the US.Also many US states have death duties so giving to charity can be very effective in tax planning.So the US donors have more incentive than Australians.
Twiggy Forrest has pledged to give away at least half of his wealth before he leaves this earth.
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But that is the thing, isn't it. Trumpets were blown; donations were made through personal foundations and PR reps worked hard on maximising media coverage. And we do lag - in terms of our top 5% by personal wealth - in terms of what is donated as percentage of income. As mentioned, everyday Australians donate more by percentage of income than our top 5% by personal income. That is not say all people well-off are stingy coughs who will only cough up funds if they get some gain (other than warm feelings) from it - some are very good, some less so, and as a artificial group (created by segmentation for research purposes) compared to similar artificial groups from other countries, it's been noted that our local artificial group tends to do less philanthropy.

Of course, it's not the point I was making - which was class isn't something that can really be bought. Even by one-off big $50m donations. All such things prove is that you have $50m to give away lol - and I commend anyone who gives any such gifts without having a whole PR firm promoting it, or requesting that the new wing has a certain name plastered over it - even if it doesn't really change the person handing over the cheque.

I leave arguments over the rich / poor /and in-between, and their meaning to society, to those political agitators - personally I think your wealth status doesn't really mean much of anything, other than to your bank balance lol
 
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Pushka said:
The Edelsteins come to mind. Plus a certain Federal politician.
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Well the Edelstens are back on the market now they've separated. :eek: The sad part is now there will be two of them wandering separately rather than confining themselves to their own bogan class.
 
I think we're done with Dr Edelstein. Byrnne on the other hand...she's not too bad until she opens her mouth. :eek:
 
Pushka said:
I think we're done with Dr Edelstein. Byrnne on the other hand...she's not too bad until she opens her mouth. :eek:
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When I first saw her I thought she was actually closer to his age. She's got a good face for radio and a great voice for mime.
 
Hvr said:
Well the Edelstens are back on the market now they've separated. :eek: The sad part is now there will be two of them wandering separately rather than confining themselves to their own bogan class.
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There was an interesting Age article about the split, that reflected on their wedding and how the 'show' surrounding the wedding ended up souring the night. Proof that certain money, especially flaunting of, rarely brings anything but unhappiness.

I have a friend whose family I'd guess some would call old money, and what's interesting about them is how often they downplay it. They don't hide it, but neither do they talk it up either (or really talk about it at all). Not being old money myself I find it interesting, it seems a less problem prone environment.
 
DC3 said:
Maybe they thought that the entire seat was theirs to do with as they liked.
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With that thought process the back of the seat in front is also mine to do as I please?
 
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