Train derailment sends three B737s swimming

[samh004]

I saw at least one "split" in the standard spot they always split. I recall a number of threads/concerns about when they crash there's always 2 spots the fuselage breaks as it's a join. Just putting it out there.

 

[BAM1748]

Must not be any tunnels en route. Or if there are they must be especially large.

That is one way to crash land: Train carrying Boeing 737 parts derails sending huge plane fuselages into river | Mail Online

Plenty of tunnels, but larger loading gauge than we have here, below igve you the idea.
This link has a photo of a new loco for Tasmania being tested between two US locomotives in Florida.
RailPictures.Net Photo: PRLX 4300 2 2002 Norfolk Southern PR43C PR22L PR22B at New Smyrna Beach, Florida by Kevin Burkholder

Matt

 

[SeatBackForward]

Must not be any tunnels en route. Or if there are they must be especially large.

Isn't it fascinating what the width of two horse's bums has led to.

 

[sjd]

I know you are all interested in what happened to the fuselages but I think everyone here has overlooked the fact that there were

no soybeans spilled

The good people at the Soy Crash Investigation Association have stood down from high alert and gone back to their "spilt milk" studies.

 

[Hvr]

Isn't it fascinating what the width of two horse's bums has led to.

Snopes has some interesting comments about the width of railways.

However, if they need railways to transport plane bodies maybe they're not building them in the right place? Surely a creative engineer could find another way to construct planes so that wasteful travel isn't needed?

Or maybe the costs of transport (and occasional hull loss) are financially worth it to ensure quality construction?

 

[NM]

Snopes has some interesting comments about the width of railways.

However, if they need railways to transport plane bodies maybe they're not building them in the right place? Surely a creative engineer could find another way to construct planes so that wasteful travel isn't needed?

Or maybe the costs of transport (and occasional hull loss) are financially worth it to ensure quality construction?

Ahh, but the location of component manufacture has less to do with manufacturing efficiencies and much more to do with politics and tax benefits offered by certain states/cities.

 

[Flying Fox]

Isn't it fascinating what the width of two horse's bums has led to.

Ah yes. I also believe that this same width had an influence on NASA's space shuttle SRB's dimensions.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Ah yes. I also believe that this same width had an influence on NASA's space shuttle SRB's dimensions.

Next time we park our backsides in a 737, we can blame horses and their backsides for the elbow-shoulder argy bargy with our seatmates.

 

[TomVexille]

Ahh, but the location of component manufacture has less to do with manufacturing efficiencies and much more to do with politics and tax benefits offered by certain states/cities.

Exactly.

 

[Flying Fox]

Some more pics and some video footage.

It even shows a 737 broken across the fuselage bending with the tide of the river.

Pulling Boeing plane fuselages from Montana river going ‘slowly’ | News.com.au

 

[cove]

Might need a stronger tape to put the broken one back together!

 

[markis10]

Re: QF94 (1 July) return

Apparently all 6 fuselages on the train are being written off.

 

[NM]

Re: QF94 (1 July) return

Apparently all 6 fuselages on the train are being written off.

At whose cost? Boeing? Boeing's insurance provider? The rail company? The rail company's insurance provider?

 

[TomVexille]

Apparently all 6 fuselages on the train are being written off.

Probably for the best

 

[TheBOSman]

Re: QF94 (1 July) return

At whose cost? Boeing? Boeing's insurance provider? The rail company? The rail company's insurance provider?

Probably the rail company's insurance provider.

 

[Flying Fox]

Re: QF94 (1 July) return

Apparently all 6 fuselages on the train are being written off.

Cool. Wonder if they want to give me one?

 

[Clivem]

Re: QF94 (1 July) return

Probably the rail company's insurance provider.

It would be strictly a case by case situation dependent on contractual terms in place. In general freight carriers (whether road, rail, air or sea freight) do not offer automatic freight insurance, it normally has to be arrange by either the consignee or consignor or a third party dependant on the contract for supply terms. Certain things will be covered but in most cases it would not be the rail company's responsibility to ensure adequate freight insurance is in place for the actual item/s.

It's also important to note that the rates for insurance go through the roof when the item being shipped is a high value, as these airframes would be classified, as opposed to 'general freight' . The cost of high value freight insurance is often considerably more that than the actual freight A to B cost. As an example I recently sent a larger generator worth big dollars from Brisbane to Yamba in Northern NSW (just over a 300km trip each way ). The load required front and rear pilot vehicles and a police escort. To 'insure' the high value load specifically while in transit was actually more than double the actual fright cost which was fairly significant in it's own right. As any freight insurer will be quick to tell you ....'Planes do crash, ships do sink, and trucks or trains do roll over' ...........

 

[BAM1748]

It would be the cargo owners responsibility to insure. Montana Rail Link would not cover the freight.

Matt

 

[cove]

Insurance and re-insurance can be a very risky business.
Governments self insure generally.
If Parliament House burnt down (after the celebrations died down) the Australian taxpayers would have to rebuild it.
Those Boeing frames need to be perfect so letting them go for a slide and swim was not ideal for creating perfect.

 

[Atleastonce]

There are many insurance policies that would come into play and be joined in coverage/recovery action. Due care on maintenance of track, negligence of operators, both in control at time of incident and loading procedures were followed, signal operations, faulty securing and many more. This will be a very messy insurance settlement and many things to consider. If policies do respond, whomever then "owns" the fuselages because of payout will attempt to seek some recovery, somewhere either by selling damaged fuselages or deconstruction and scrapping. Once again many options available depending on the insurance contracts and how/if settlement occurs.