To Tattoo or Not To Tattoo

[Deleted member]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

Why is it ok to openly denigrate people with tattoos? I thought people on AFF were better than that.

People openly denigrate lots of things , it's human nature. Tattoo's are a definite polariser. I'm in the
"I no like " camp.
Frankly I see them as pointless. I get that certain societies have symbolic tattoos. The Samoan leg tattoo, the now resurgent Maori "Moko" etc. but pictures of skulls and or hula dancers for example, leave me wondering. Each yo his / her own I suppose.

 

[TomVexille]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

People openly denigrate lots of things , it's human nature. Tattoo's are a definite polariser. I'm in the
"I no like " camp.
Frankly I see them as pointless. I get that certain societies have symbolic tattoos. The Samoan leg tattoo, the now resurgent Maori "Moko" etc. but pictures of skulls and or hula dancers for example, leave me wondering. Each yo his / her own I suppose.

That's fine. People don't have to like tattoos or anything else. But where do you draw the line on being rude about peoples life choices?

Personally I think this thread is incredibly rude and a lot of people with a "I'm better than you" attitude. It's rather petty.

 

[Pushka]

Why is it ok to openly denigrate people with tattoos? I thought people on AFF were better than that.

There are tattoos, and then, there are tattoos. I am talking of the thick, black, large blodges that are past their use by date.

I thought a good business idea would be to open a boutique that specialised in artful tattoos - crafted designs, while sipping on champagne etc. I thought about having one done on a significant birthday but couldn't stomach the thought of going into an Adelaide parlour.

In Adelaide the tattoo parlours are pretty much run by bikie groups. That is why the residual dislike of many tattoos remains. And some are just really ugly. No design.

Plus, on older people they can just looked really awful if they are done without thought given as to what they will look like in a few years time.

On younger ones, irrespective of design, they look better as they are on tight skin.

My niece had one done on her ankle when she was OS. If you knew her mother/family you would know why I was . She didn't tell her mum for a few years but did tell me.

Surely we can express an opinion on something we don't like?

 

[Walter_Plinge]

There are tattoos, and then, there are tattoos. I am talking of the thick, black, large blodges that are past their use by date.

I thought a good business idea would be to open a boutique that specialised in artful tattoos - crafted designs, while sipping on champagne etc. I thought about having one done on a significant birthday but couldn't stomach the thought of going into an Adelaide parlour.

Something like this?

New Cubist Tattoos by Peter Aurisch | Colossal

 

[TomVexille]

Surely we can express an opinion on something we don't like?

I'll ask again. Where do we draw the line?

 

[ALH]

Personally, I've always been fascinated by tattoos. I love the story they tell for some people. Some I like, some I love, some I dislike a lot. A bit like other people's choices in clothes, hairstyles, cars, taste in music. I always wanted one myself but my allergy to dyes makes this impossible now. My tattoo choice (as with many others) would signify something very important to me and be there as a constant reminder/re-assurance of this.

Oh, and I love a 'Moko'!

 

[Ausbt]

Something like this?

New Cubist Tattoos by Peter Aurisch | Colossal

Those Cubist tattoos are fantastic. Hmmm, just thinking on this artistic concept though, not being a fan of Impressionism I shudder to think about someone having Waterlillies stramped on their lower back. Or Jackson Pollock!

Personally, I have simple tastes. My dream tattoo is a Southern Cross made with Frangipanis.

 

[blackcat20]

Surely we can express an opinion on something we don't like?

But then does that mean I can express an opinion if I dont like other things about people, be it colour, race, size, accent etc etc? Its not appropriate, and if I did so I would be swiftly booted from this community. Tattoos arent really any different, you dont have to like it, but you can keep it to yourself.

 

[Buzzard]

I don't have any tatts but certainly have friends that do. To each their won.

What gets me though is how people form opinions about others based on what? That they have a tattoo, the car they drive, where they live etc. I know somebody that thinks only bogans drive Commodores. Hello!

Human nature is a strange beast.
And I do try to be nice but I am only human.

 

[Pushka]

But then does that mean I can express an opinion if I dont like other things about people, be it colour, race, size, accent etc etc? Its not appropriate, and if I did so I would be swiftly booted from this community. Tattoos arent really any different, you dont have to like it, but you can keep it to yourself.

Because having a tattoo is a choice someone has made. The examples you have given - genetics.

 

[mannej]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

I admit I am flabbergasted by this entire thread, and not only because I have a couple of tattoos. Not that it is anyone's business, but I waited until I was 40 to get the first, it was very personal to me and so was the second. People need to lighten up and realise that people's bodies are their own and anyone who looks down on someone else for getting tattoos/piercings or whatever else really needs to find something better to do with their time.

Pot, kettle, black?

How ironic - are those who you are denigrating are not entitled to a freedom of speech?

As mentioned, tattoos will always polarise. Each to their own.

 

[Pushka]

And as I posted earlier, I considered getting a tattoo on a significant birthday so I am not against tattoos per se.

But feel I can post if I see something I don't particularly like and which I am forced to see if it is on a highly exposed area. Much like a dress code in the QP really.

 

[TomVexille]

I know somebody that thinks only bogans drive Commodores. Hello!

Bogan!!!

Then again, I must be one since I drive a hilux

 

[TomVexille]

Because having a tattoo is a choice someone has made. The examples you have given - genetics.

Overeating is a choice...

What about religion (or lack of)? That's a choice.

All I'm saying is that it's rather offensive to some and has no place here.

 

[JohnK]

Surely we can express an opinion on something we don't like?

Such as dress standards and general behaviour in lounges and public?

 

[Walter_Plinge]

But feel I can post if I see something I don't particularly like and which I am forced to see if it is on a highly exposed area. Much like a dress code in the QP really.

I think you've nailed the issue. It's akin to a plumber's crack or unnecessarily exposed cleavage. Many people are fine with such personal displays of their, uh, assets. Others might regard them as an affront to good taste.

These days I just have to shrug and get over tattoos. My young employees have tatts and metal adornments - and they're valuable employees. I'll take a first-rate employee with tatts over a time-server without tatts any day. They keep their decorations (mostly) covered up when dealing with clients, which is all I can ask. A good proportion of the clientele have tatts anyway.

 

[drron]

Overeating is a choice...

What about religion (or lack of)? That's a choice.

All I'm saying is that it's rather offensive to some and has no place here.

But overeating is only one factor in size.Genetics is a major factor for example in height and tall people generally are heavier than those that are shorter.
Of course those of higher BMI are regularly denigrated by society and sometimes here.We just put up with it.

 

[Pushka]

Overeating is a choice...

What about religion (or lack of)? That's a choice.

All I'm saying is that it's rather offensive to some and has no place here.

Sure. But not all overweight people overeat and not all 'overeaters' are overweight. Thats where genetics kicks in.

But I am sincerely at a loss as to why it isn't ok to say that I find some tattoos rather unpleasant to my eye? And joke about who chooses that?

If I choose to do something and some find it funny then so be it. If I am happy with my choice then it doesnt matter to me. I just got some personalised number plates. My first. Some might think it is weird to do that, or think what I have used is weird, but I dont care. They can joke it about without offending me.

Such as dress standards and general behaviour in lounges and public?

Yup.

 

[straitman]

Bogan!!!

Then again, I must be one since I drive a hilux

At least it is not a Ford that needs a heated tailgate to keep your hands warm when you push it home.

 

[RAM]

Re: The totally off-topic thread

I admit I am flabbergasted by this entire thread, and not only because I have a couple of tattoos. Not that it is anyone's business, but I waited until I was 40 to get the first, it was very personal to me and so was the second. People need to lighten up and realise that people's bodies are their own and anyone who looks down on someone else for getting tattoos/piercings or whatever else really needs to find something better to do with their time.

I think one could-have-been-better-worded comment has unlocked a deep chasm here.

Anyone can have a tattoo - Totally agree.
Anyone can choose to display their tatts - Totally agree.
When on exhibit people are equally able to comment on how great or poor the look is - Totally agree.

I made a point earlier about the number of Reality Tattoo shows on TV.

There is a limit to how much advertising is allowed over a period on TV. To me these shows are as close to 'product placement' advertising as you can get. On the whole they portray Tattoos as a wonderful thing to have. There is one show that portrays the drawbacks but then it switches to how an even bigger tattoo is the only (implied) solution.

That is what I dislike. To me the bulk of these shows represent undisclosed advertising and should be regulated as such (includes false, misleading, deceptive or deliberate obfuscation of claims made).

As it currently stands they get off scot-free.

That is my issue. I may be wrong...

Contrast with real life example:

Man stands naked in doorway at corner house across from Primary school and Girls secondary school. He is talking extremely loudly on a mobile phone (not drunk btw). He is standing front-on revealing his full (limited) glory to all walking by.

To me, notified by my young daughter coming home from school, that was wrong.

To him it wasn't a problem.

But when he saw an adult coming either way he ducked back inside until they were out of sight.

To the schools this was wrong.
To the Police (& subsequently Magistrate) that was wrong.


People are entitled to their opinion but that does not make them correct as far as society's laws are concerned.