This is going too far : Dog dies in overhead locker~

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There is a massive thread about this on FT, I suspect there is a lot to come out about this incident.

Some questions/thoughts:

Why would you even put your dog there in the first place?
It looks like no one checked the dog for the whole trip. Why not?
Why not put in at your feet like you're supposed to?
Why are any of these people allowed in public without supervision from a carer?
 

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There is a massive thread about this on FT, I suspect there is a lot to come out about this incident Some questions/thoughts:
Why would you even put your dog there in the first place?
It looks like no one checked the dog for the whole trip. Why not?
Why not put in at your feet like you're supposed to?
Why are any of these people allowed in public without supervision from a carer?


The article states the FLIGHT ATTENDANT put the dog in the locker !
"On Monday night, a dog died in a plane after a United Airlines flight attendant forced the dog into an overhead bin."
 

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Well it is United.They beat up their passengers so not surprising the way they treat animals.
 

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There has to be more to the story.

Did the FA know (told, manifest ect) that it was a dog? Did the pax book the dog in on the flight (I thought only 2 pets per flight but people sneak them on).

What a terrible thing to happen, that poor animal. WTF did no one check on it or as the owner, you take it OUT of the overhead after take off? Why leave it in the overhead after take off? Thats nuts and as a owner, you bear some responsibility to that.

I think AA has a default, Apologize first, investigate second response these days.
 

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Lucky has also covered this story over on One Mile At A Time. From what is being reported, United is definitely at fault. I also think that AFF members are generally well travelled and versed in being on an airplane and would likely behave in a different manner to the dog owner in this situation.
 

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Even more surprising is no other passengers spoke up about this or saw an issue with a dog being in an overhead locker!

Part of the problem with the owner of the dog speaking up is that in the US there is such an issue with questioning cabin crew and then being kicked off the aircraft (or worse).
 

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Here's lucky's articles, one is a report of the situation and the other his views of why he blames the FA entirely for this (and I would agree with the points he's raised in this article as well).

Heartbreaking: United Kills Another Dog (This Time In The Cabin) - One Mile at a Time

Why I 100% Blame United Airlines For Dog’s Death, Not Fellow Passengers - One Mile at a Time

A horrible situation for the mother, especially flying with her (presumably) two children - I sense UA may well be again facing some legal action for this incident.
 

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Part of the problem with the owner of the dog speaking up is that in the US there is such an issue with questioning cabin crew and then being kicked off the aircraft

So comply until you are in the air.
Then take the dog out and place on lap or something.

To not even check on the dog during the flight is simply bizarre.

Do we know if pax was in an exit or bulkhead where no underseat storage for takeoff?
 
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Yep. From lucky's blog seems to be a 737-700 which puts row 23 middle of the wing and a couple of rows behind the overwing exit row.

As noted mother was travelling with teenage daughter, baby and 10-wk old pup
 

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Even more surprising is no other passengers spoke up about this or saw an issue with a dog being in an overhead locker!

Part of the problem with the owner of the dog speaking up is that in the US there is such an issue with questioning cabin crew and then being kicked off the aircraft (or worse).

Being LOTFAP and UA it is conceivable that other passengers held genuine concerns that they'd be forcibly removed from the flight then arrested for creating a disturbance and threatening the security of the plane and others.
 

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I suspect that in this matter, as in all similar such stuff, that by the time the truth actually comes out, we will all have long forgotten about the incident...
 

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Not a nice story and yes, an error by the airline in directing it be placed in the overhead locker.

But I’m sorry - the owner was irresponsible. It’s not rocket science to know there is no air flow in the lockers. The dog was a French bulldog so a Braccy breed and thus more prone to breathing issues etc

A responsible owner would have declined to comply in the best interests of their dog and got off the plane - which was the alternate supposedly presented to them.
 

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And risk the possibly of being arrested for not following a power hungry FA's requests and holding up the plane? This is easily a thought that could have went through this mothers head based on past news stories, and not something you would like to possibly happen with a baby and another child in tow.

Such is the circumstances where everyone in that situation knows that they 'would not have let this happen'.

The simple fact is, this mother and dog owner should have never ever been put in the situation in the first place, the FA was completely out of line and did not follow correct procedure, and this is even after the pet carrier would have been checked upon check-in and most likely boarding. The FA needs to be certainly disciplined (probably should be fired, but bet she won't) and I'd hazard a guess that UA will be paying the mother a little compensation for the incident.
 

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Not a nice story and yes, an error by the airline in directing it be placed in the overhead locker.

But I’m sorry - the owner was irresponsible. It’s not rocket science to know there is no air flow in the lockers. The dog was a French bulldog so a Braccy breed and thus more prone to breathing issues etc

A responsible owner would have declined to comply in the best interests of their dog and got off the plane - which was the alternate supposedly presented to them.

I am sorry but it is easy to comment from the comfort of your own armchair.

Looking at the previous high profile incidents in the US and with UA, I am not surprised that the lady eventually complied, and that the passengers around didn’t stick up for her here.
As much as people would say that they’d deplane in theory, it’s quite possible in theory they’d just comply.

Simply put the passenger should never have been put in this position in the first place.
 
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