The next DONE4 planning thread

[simongr]

DONE4 allows the tour of Oz - my travel agent doesnt believe it which is why I had it booked in the US last time - if these guys wont oo it this time then I am calling Amex and booking it myself...

 

[simongr]

Yeah that's the annoying bit about AAdvantage. Great value if you're on BA T class fares though.

It is a frustration for me that qpoints dont accrue significantly faster in J/F on AAdvantage - I guess that reflects te majority of flyers are probably US domestic...

 

[serfty]

It is a frustration for me that qpoints dont accrue significantly faster in J/F on AAdvantage - I guess that reflects te majority of flyers are probably US domestic...

In a thread related to QF now enforcing the 4 segment rule, hauteboy on FT recently posted that one can get QF WP flying in the US for approx. USD1300. The post related to judicial use of YUPP/KUPP fares. Those same fares credited to AA would be unlikely to get AAdvantage Gold.

It is reasonably apparent that in relation to attaining status there is quite a different philosophy with US domestic travel when compared with that of Qantas.

 

[simongr]

Ah well - at least I will hit EXP on this trip (and travelling in F for my Asia trip so can access F lounge etc - phew) and it wont be a problem after that.

S

 

[simongr]

Just a quick question guys - I am trying to plan the trip back for tgtwwm - he is coming straight back to Oz - via JFK (QF SG and no interest in AA). I was going to try to get him on the QF 108 - but trying to book it (dummy booking) on the QF US website it didnt list as a flight option and I couldnt see it on EF either (perhaps I wasnt looking hard enough).

Is it possible to book that flight as a one off?

After my jiggery pokery mileage run I might try and do the same flight myself

 

[serfty]

You should have no problem. I could see it.

At the moment, QF107/QF108 only flies Sun, Mon, Wed, Fri & Sat; you're not looking at a Thursday or a Tuesday are you?

 

[simongr]

I didnt think so I will check again on EF

 

[dragonman]

Every so often - actually very often my newbie-ness leaves me swimming in a pool of ignorance. What is YUPP/KUPP?


And another question for my DONE5 if I use an AA FFnumber what status would JFK-LAX-DFW-YVR-DFW-YUL-MIA-FRA get me with AA. I am lost trying to work it out.

thanks

 

[Keith009]

Every so often - actually very often my newbie-ness leaves me swimming in a pool of ignorance. What is YUPP/KUPP?


And another question for my DONE5 if I use an AA FFnumber what status would JFK-LAX-DFW-YVR-DFW-YUL-MIA-FRA get me with AA. I am lost trying to work it out.

thanks

YUPP/KUPP - AA's First Class for Coach fares. Basically books you into discount First (A or P) for the price of full-ish Economy (Y or K). But if rerouting were to happen and the flight you're rebooked on doesn't have A/P availability - you're stuck in Y. To book on aa.com, simply select 'First with restrictions' for domestic USA fares and avoid the options highlighted in yellow as they're the ones where A or P are not available.

JFK-LAX-DFW-YVR-DFW-YUL-MIA-FRA = 14 966 base miles on Great Circle Mapper. Assuming you're booked in A or D all the way, you will get 14 966 x 1.5 Qpts = 22 449 Qpts. It looks like you're on AA all the way so if you sign up for the Plat ChAAllenge - you'll get Plat halfway through that itinerary (when you hit 10 000 Qpts on AA codes).

 

[simongr]

JUst as an aside - would a SYD-LHR-JFK-LAX-SYD count as a DONE3? tgtwwm is flying a simple trip to europe (no interest in mileage runs) - he is planned to be on QF1 to London, BA177 to JFK and QF108 back to Sydney - does the transit in Asia count as a continent?

 

[NM]

JUst as an aside - would a SYD-LHR-JFK-LAX-SYD count as a DONE3? tgtwwm is flying a simple trip to europe (no interest in mileage runs) - he is planned to be on QF1 to London, BA177 to JFK and QF108 back to Sydney - does the transit in Asia count as a continent?

Nope. Its a DONE4 since you pass through Asia. Cannot do a DONE3 from SWP.

 

[simongr]

Thanks - I am now actually thinking of putting him on a straight SYD-LHR-SYD flight on QF - for about $10,003 as it is reasonably close to the price for a DONE4 and there is limited availability on 6 Jul for the flight to London in D

 

[serfty]

JUst as an aside - would a SYD-LHR-JFK-LAX-SYD count as a DONE3? ...

Even if a through flight number, if any flight segment in the xONEx routing lands in SA, SWP or Africa it must be at least an xONE4. All xONEx's must include segments to/from NA, EUR and Asia, even if the rules are twisted to enforce this. e.g. The direct ORD-DEL flight is considered to involve a stopover/transit in EUR. i.e. NA-EUR-Asia.

 

[simongr]

OK - after today's travails on my CircAsia ticket I am now loathe to try and book this - but I am going to. The overall trip is now:

syd-hkg-sin-lhr-dxb-lhr,lgw-bgi-jfk-dfw-lax-jfk-nrt-hkg-syd-per-adl-mel-syd

This is broken down into x trips:

syd-hkg-sin-lhr
lhr-dxb-lhr
lgw-bgi-jfk
jfk-dfw-lax-jfk-nrt-hkg-syd
syd-per-adl-mel-syd

I am not concerned about most of the trips except for jfk-dfw-lax-jfk-nrt-syd. Now I have left about 7 hours at JFK so if I have to recheck luggage I am pretty relaxed for time. Sleep will be an issue as I am on an M83 DFW-LAX - but with the amount of booze sloshing around in various lounges and flights I am sure I will sleep - or at worst read a book Should I be concerned about luggage being checked through back to a point of origin (JFK)?

I have checked availability and I think its all good. I will phone QF to book it tomorrow as they were very good today and I dont mind being on hold for 1 -1/2 hours whilst they check and ticket this - as I can just get on with day-to-day work whilst it happens.

Am I crazy for attempting this?

It will generate 112K FF points :shock: and will take me to EXP comfortably and take me to 380K points (if I put all flights to AA between now and then - which I should but am tempted not to - that WP on QF is soooo tempting).

Sadly - EXP may only happen on my flights to/from DXB so no F lounge at LHR/DXB - but I will need AA to fax me some confirmation of status that week to get F lounge out of LHR.

Seriously though - am I crazy?

 

[NM]

OK - after today's travails on my CircAsia ticket I am now loathe to try and book this - but I am going to. The overall trip is now:

syd-hkg-sin-lhr-dxb-lhr,lgw-bgi-jfk-dfw-lax-jfk-nrt-hkg-syd-per-adl-mel-syd

Sorry, but the routing is not valid. You have two Asia continents. The only way to go through Asia twice is if the trip between SWP and Europe is a Transit without Stopover or a single plane through service (such as QF1/2, QF5/6, QR9/10 etc).

So if you do SYD-HKG-SIN-LHR, that is not a Transit without stopover. Even if less than 24 hours in HKG and SIN, you have two transits so that will count as your Asia stop. That means you cannot go through Asia between NA and SWP on the return.

 

[JohnK]

Seriously though - am I crazy?

Is the colour of the ocean blue?

 

[simongr]

Sorry, but the routing is not valid. You have two Asia continents. The only way to go through Asia twice is if the trip between SWP and Europe is a Transit without Stopover or a single plane through service (such as QF1/2, QF5/6, QR9/10 etc).

So if you do SYD-HKG-SIN-LHR, that is not a Transit without stopover. Even if less than 24 hours in HKG and SIN, you have two transits so that will count as your Asia stop. That means you cannot go through Asia between NA and SWP on the return.

Thanks - just the clarification I need

Looks like I am going to Helsinki then

 

[simongr]

Amendments

syd-hkg-fra-hel-lhr-dxb-lhr,lgw-bgi-jfk-dfw-lax-jfk-nrt-hkg-syd-per-adl-mel-syd

syd-hkg-fra-hel-lhr
lhr-dxb-lhr
lgw-bgi-jfk
jfk-dfw-lax-jfk-nrt-hkg-syd
syd-per-adl-mel-syd

In relation to JFK I tam thinking of leaving my luggage anat the hotel and ducking back to the city to collect or trying to find left luggage at JFK - if theer is such a thing.

S

 

[simongr]

Grr FCM didnt even reply to our email. Now on phone to QF bookig it. Slight hiccup with teh OZ round trip - having to delete one of the flights BUT QF staff refusing currently to believe that it can be ticketed "Trip stops as soon as you return to point of origin"

 

[simongr]

Well QF just refused to ticket the itinerary - looks like I will book through the US.

ANyone got any ideas of a good TA that I can email the itinerary to and get it booked?

A little annoyed today :evil: