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Suggestions for Melbourne to London via Sth Africa

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grant32

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Embarking on a trip soon, with the following routing.

MEL-JNB-LHR-OSL-LHR-MEL.

Usually I fly World Traveller Plus to UK return, but with the "stopover" in JNB, this means Y in QF from SYD to JNB. Any suggestions for alternative routing (as long as I stop in the above cities), or reasonable J fares? The World Trav Plus fare is coming back at about $AUD4700.

Thanks in advance.
 

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Hi grant32 and welcome to AFF :D .

You could add e.g. LAX to your plans and price a RTW fare. Also search this forum re: AA Platinum Challenge and you could easily earn the equivalent of QFSG on AA.
 
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Thanks, BlackKnox. Great idea about a RTW fare. Will look into that. I am already QF Gold, and PremEx on UA.
 

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grant32 said:
Thanks, BlackKnox. Great idea about a RTW fare. Will look into that. I am already QF Gold, and PremEx on UA.
If you'll bank points to QF and go via the U.S, it may be an idea (if it's not more expensive) to add NYC and fly in first from LAX-NYC, as this would earn QF first class cabin bonuses.

But others here can help more than me. Anyone :?:
 

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BlacKnox said:
grant32 said:
Thanks, BlackKnox. Great idea about a RTW fare. Will look into that. I am already QF Gold, and PremEx on UA.
If you'll bank points to QF and go via the U.S, it may be an idea (if it's not more expensive) to add NYC and fly in first from LAX-NYC, as this would earn QF first class cabin bonuses.

But others here can help more than me. Anyone :?:

On 2-class US domestic flights a business RTW (DONEx) books into first (subject to availability). If looking to get first class SCs and points then need to be careful to avoid the 3-class US domestic flights.
 

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Related question

Kiwiflyer,

You mentioned:
On 2-class US domestic flights a business RTW (DONEx) books into first (subject to availability). If looking to get first class SCs and points then need to be careful to avoid the 3-class US domestic flights.


I am currently looking at booking a RTW in business class on frequent flyer points. I am having trouble with internal flights in the US because most AA flights seem to have only economy and first class. The Qantas Frequent Flyer Centre staff tell me that they need to book me into economy on those flights. Apparently this is because if they book me into first the total cost will exceed beyond the 282,500 for RTW business. Apparently the total cost would become 420,000 even if I have only a couple of flights in the US in first.

All of this was understandable to me, but your comments hinted at the possibility that maybe I can get first rather than economy on those flights without causing the 'price' of the RTW to increase from 282,500 to 420,000. Or do your comments only apply to paid flights rather than award flights ?

Maybe I've picked things up wrong, but I'd be grateful if you are able to help.

Many thanks,

vaccav
 

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Re: Related question

Kiwiflyer,

You mentioned:
On 2-class US domestic flights a business RTW (DONEx) books into first (subject to availability). If looking to get first class SCs and points then need to be careful to avoid the 3-class US domestic flights.


I am currently looking at booking a RTW in business class on frequent flyer points. ...
vaccav,

Kiwi Flyer was referring to a paid business class RTW ticket, otherwise known as a DONx, not a Frequent Flyer Award.

With a DONEx, passengers are booked into D class which is a discounted business class. If a flight physically has no business class seating, but does have First Class seating, the DONEx passenger can be booked into A class (Discounted First) instead.

It is different for frequent flyer redemption; in the above case the passenger must be booked into WHY or Economy Class.
 

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Re: Related question

serfty said:
It is different for frequent flyer redemption; in the above case the passenger must be booked into WHY or Economy Class.

This depends on the FF scheme whose points are being used. For QF redemptions , this is indeed true, for AA redemptions for example, awards get booked into First on US domestics when on 2 class services

Dave
 

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Its anomalies like this that has lead to some wierd rulings by FFPs. For example UA will also put *A members with business class awards into economy for 2-class domestic flights. SQ took exception to this so in retaliation on certain flights requires an F award for UA mileage plus members to get into business class on SQ.

It would all be so much simpler if us-based airlines gave up the pretence their domestic flights have first class and rename it in line with the rest of the world. Unlikely to happen any time soon, so we just have to work the system as best we can in the meantime.
 

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grant32 sometimes RTW business class pricing is more competitive than point to point (e.g. MEL-LHR-MEL) pricing. How did your RTW quotes compare :?:
 

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Re: Related question

Dave Noble said:
serfty said:
It is different for frequent flyer redemption; in the above case the passenger must be booked into WHY or Economy Class.

This depends on the FF scheme whose points are being used. For QF redemptions , this is indeed true, for AA redemptions for example, awards get booked into First on US domestics when on 2 class services

Dave
My answer was specific to the Qantas program. This was because vaccav referred to : "... Qantas Frequent Flyer Centre staff ...". (I guess I could have been more specific).
 
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