Sorry Sir, Virgin Australia has nothing to do with Virgin Atlantic...

[oz_mark]

I wonder what would happen if the OP just said placed their 2yo on the floor where the front desk was and just walked in with the OH and their 2 older children. Can you imagine the scene??? LOL

Abandoning a child in an airport would not help your case !

 

[MH_fan]

Haha. Strangely enough I was thinking the same thing when reading the thread. However in an airport... Sense of humour seems often to disappear. I could imagine the police being called.

No one in their right mind would do that but I can't help but chuckle at the thought of it and just imagining the circus that would ensue...

The OP could just run into the lounge with the OH and 2 other children. The police get called. Lounge agent bars the police from entering the lounge because they're not flying (rules are rules!). Police arrest the 3yo for being a public nuisance.

 

[SeatBackForward]

No one in their right mind would do that but I can't help but chuckle at the thought of it and just imagining the circus that would ensue...

The OP could just run into the lounge with the OH and 2 other children. The police get called. Lounge agent bars the police from entering the lounge because they're not flying (rules are rules!). Police arrest the 3yo for being a public nuisance.

Yet the 3yr old could easily get away with using the PB lane unaccompanied..sheesh.

 

[andye]

Hello Kaelo, I forgot to mention my wife who was travelling was Gold . I believe that rules are good to have in place.. but when a family who turms up espacially with a young baby in arms and a member of the family travels alot they should be allowed in. What strain would a 2 year old have put on the lounge in HK at 11pm at night.?? I would have given up my extra person for a family who had a baby so they could freshen up! It is not about breaking the rules but more about the Moral.

I may have missed something here but doesn't this say Mr & Mrs MK1974 are both Gold. Surely this means they should both have individual access to VS lounge with one guest each. (my family of 6 means that for most partner lounges we would need to have 3 Gold members in a scheme)

 

[markis10]

I may have missed something here but doesn't this say Mr & Mrs MK1974 are both Gold. Surely this means they should both have individual access to VS lounge with one guest each. (my family of 6 means that for most partner lounges we would need to have 3 Gold members in a scheme)

MK1974 had three kids, so no luck getting the whole family in.

 

[andye]

Sorry confused MK1974 with OP

 

[JessicaTam]

Lounge access rules are what keep this forum going, I think!

There have been a few occaisions where I have been outside the rules when seeking lounge access. My philosophy is to hope for the best but expect the worst. I usually try to approach the entrance desk alone, so there is no perceived pressure from the 'extras'. I explain the situation, including that I am aware of the guesting rules and that I am outside them. I have usually been successful, with only one knock-back as that lounge was (obviously) very busy.

In short, I am asking them for a favour, so I behave as such. Grateful if successful and gracious if not.

 

[medhead]

Abandoning a child in an airport would not help your case !

Asking a child to wait somewhere is not abandonment.

 

[oz_mark]

I wonder what would happen if the OP just placed their 3yo on the floor where the front desk was and just walked in with the OH and their 2 older children.

Asking a child to wait somewhere is not abandonment.

Placing a child on the floor and walking into the lounge does not constitute asking the child to do anything.

 

[medhead]

Placing a child on the floor and walking into the lounge does not constitute asking the child to do anything.

Agreed, the idea was poorly expressed. I think a better approach would be to tell the child to wait "over there", which would be the seats that some lounges have opposite the entry desk. Then walk into the lounge. Agreed again that a 3 year old might be a bit young for such an action, but 6+ might be better.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Agreed again that a 3 year old might be a bit young for such an action, but 6+ might be better.

As a protest?

As others have stated...thems are the rules, so what would the protest be protesting?

When I holiday (that's when family are present), I want them to have a 150% better experience than I.

I fly regularly and can live without a lounge and if I'm with my kids, the last thing I'd even consider is hovering in a lounge whilst some of my family is waiting in the reception (presumably patiently) for me to fill up on average food and grog. I cannot see the protest there. All I can see is unjustly hurting a child and running the risk of the unimaginable, a child going missing.........forever. How would anyone sleep in that scenario.

Please all, I could strangle my kids at times (well OK, most times), but let's not start foolish hypotheticals that some idiot might just try. As much as I personally believe the lounge dragon in the OPs case was "over the top", there is no protest to be made here except fly with someone else.....don't use your kids as pawns!

 

[medhead]

As a protest?

As others have stated...thems are the rules, so what would the protest be protesting?

When I holiday (that's when family are present), I want them to have a 150% better experience than I.

I fly regularly and can live without a lounge and if I'm with my kids, the last thing I'd even consider is hovering in a lounge whilst some of my family is waiting in the reception (presumably patiently) for me to fill up on average food and grog. I cannot see the protest there. All I can see is unjustly hurting a child and running the risk of the unimaginable, a child going missing.........forever. How would anyone sleep in that scenario.

Please all, I could strangle my kids at times (well OK, most times), but let's not start foolish hypotheticals that some idiot might just try. As much as I personally believe the lounge dragon in the OPs case was "over the top", there is no protest to be made here except fly with someone else.....don't use your kids as pawns!

As passive resistance. Thems the rules? Ok, no problems. Child stay until we return, sit in the chair provided for people to wait.

I'm not going to bother with the rest of your post too much as you seem to have missed the point with comment about filling up on grog and food. (not to mention my constant wish for guest passes to be returned along with my reasoning for such) But my children would be more than capable of turning on the guilts if forewarned of their possible exile and would not be hurt. When I've thought I'd have to use this tactic the wait was always going to be about 15 minutes while the other child showered. Not to mention strategic positioning in the lounge to be able to observe the child but not be observed.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

you seem to have missed the point with comment about filling up on grog and food.

Medhead, although I responded to your post, my comments were not directed at you per se.

You have in response, clarified much more than you posted previously and what I was referring to was someone reading this thread and thinking "boy, all those frequent flyers who do this all the time, are happy to leave their kids outside the lounge so I'll do the same".......hence my comment about some idiot trying it.

There was no caustic attitude in my post. Just that leaving kids by themselves is just not on, in my humble opinion. Rotating showers (if the dragon allows that) is OK, but an adult must also wait with the kid......or perhaps the kids all go in and leave an adult outside. Leaving a child in a foreign airport alone is not a condonable situation in my books (even for 15 minutes), remember locals may know the place far better than you think you do (and that comment is not directed at Medhead).

 

[medhead]

I didn't read anything caustic in your post. Not least because I didn't explain myself fully and hence you raised valid concerns given the origin of this idea in this thread. Likewise, I was clarifying my reason as distinct from other posts here.

There is a real catch 22 in this situation. The guest allowance belongs to the adults. So an adult staying outside means that only one adult and one child can enter. Doable but not efficient.