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Shocker of a flight

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Travelling back to Sydney from SIN in J on SQ231 last Friday morning with the 3 kids and wife.
As the aircraft taxis a guy in the front of our section of the cabin (we were in rows 24/25) gets out of his seat and is told firmly to sit down. Does so, but then gets up as the a/c rotates (!) and staggers down the aisle introducing himself to every passenger (including my kids and me). Looked into his eyes and something is clearly amiss - there's nothing there. Alcohol, drugs, medication?
Cabin crew screaming at him to sit down but he keeps going back to the WC area. Not sure how he got back to his seat but once the crew were released the CS approaches him and starts what will become a 2 hour conversation (on and off) with this moron.
I decided to stay awake - past experience tells me dudes like this are not predictable. Also offered to help the FAs if they needed someone to sit on him if required.
Finally they get him quietened down but the same thing happens later during turbulence.
CS (with backup from other crew) eventually decide enough is enough and force him into a seat.
As we disembark I walked past him (resisting the urge to put the boot in......) and notice he's in cuffs.
Meanwhile on the same flight the 6 yo of the couple behind my wife decides to poo his pants (and mose of the seat cover. Crew clean him up and offer the mother a nappy, who's horrified: "He's six - he doesn't need a nappy!". (I beg to differ!). Sure enough, and hour after the cleanup and deodorising process, he does it again. My poor wife was beside herself, and claimed to be suffocating with the stench.
So, yeah, pleasant flight home.........................right up there with the time a farmer next to me dropped an entire pack of butter into my shoe without me noticing - until I put it back on during decent after a 15 hour trip sfrom the US in Y!
I stress these current incidents weren't SQ's fault. They handled things well.
And oh yeah - the coppers were waiting on arrival, but didn't enter the aircraft until we were off.
Have a great day
Peter
 

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Touch wood I've never these sort of experiences on a plane. When you do the numbers as you would in society, out of say 300 people there is someone who is special.
 

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One can only imagine what happened in economy! :eek:

As they say "it never rains but it pours".

At least you're sanguine about the trip.
 

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That flight definitely qualifies as a shocker.
 
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Sounds dreadful. I guess anyone can have tummy issues though. But the guy in handcuffs - it’s going to happen more frequently I think.
 

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Agree it was a shocker of a flight.

But for the man this could be a mental health issue and that requires a bit of compassion rather than animosity. I've had a couple of similar instances over the years and the crew have, both times, allowed the man to walk around the plane rather than try to force them to stay seated. The basis for this (and admittedly it wasn't during a 'fasten seat belt time') was that it is better to keep them calm rather than escalate the situation.

Maybe the child had special needs too? Although perhas the parent could have pre-emtively taken them to the WC :(
 
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Hadn't thought of it like that - thank you for the perspective.
Having said that - the kids was perfectly normal once on the ground in SYD, still, could have been crook, poor little bugger - I did feel sorry for him. Oh, and for my wife.......*snicker*.
 

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Agree it was a shocker of a flight.

But for the man this could be a mental health issue and that requires a bit of compassion rather than animosity. I've had a couple of similar instances over the years and the crew have, both times, allowed the man to walk around the plane rather than try to force them to stay seated. The basis for this (and admittedly it wasn't during a 'fasten seat belt time') was that it is better to keep them calm rather than escalate the situation.

Maybe the child had special needs too? Although perhas the parent could have pre-emtively taken them to the WC :(
But it can be rather scary up there in a metal cylinder worrying about what might happen.
 
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I only get really concerned when they go near the doors. In this guy's state he wouldn't have been able to do much to me (and I'm a skinny IT accountant!), more worried about the kids.
Anyway, it's over and no one got hurt including him. Other than that it was a wonderful trip. If I can get over my jetlag this week I'll do a TR.
 

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Had a bogan with big hairy armpits and dirty tank top on sitting in J aisle seat on DRW/BNE flight, he was.....ed. would not shut up, the Bose headphones cut most of it out.
 

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Agree it was a shocker of a flight.

But for the man this could be a mental health issue and that requires a bit of compassion rather than animosity. I've had a couple of similar instances over the years and the crew have, both times, allowed the man to walk around the plane rather than try to force them to stay seated. The basis for this (and admittedly it wasn't during a 'fasten seat belt time') was that it is better to keep them calm rather than escalate the situation.

Maybe the child had special needs too? Although perhas the parent could have pre-emtively taken them to the WC :(
True but why do they all save it for the flight?
 

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I only get really concerned when they go near the doors. In this guy's state he wouldn't have been able to do much to me (and I'm a skinny IT accountant!), more worried about the kids.

Thankfully, it's impossible for one person to open the door at cruising altitude, so nothing will happen there. Cockpit also secure.

It can be a disconcerting when you have a passenger like that. On both flights a member of crew followed the wandering passenger around - at a small distance and just keeping an eye out and explaining to any concerned passengers what was going on.

True but why do they all save it for the flight?

The kid or the adult? I guess there's a slightly reduced chance of having a person suffering mental illness on a plane (the difficukties of travel and all must be a barrier for some), but it is still to be expected. Perhaps unexplained reaction to medication, plus confined space, challenging environment (etc).
 

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Your wife will definitely be pushing for F on your next family trip :)
 
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