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Sale Fares Dearer than Flex Fares

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Ansett

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And here we go again another error on the website

FromToFlight Sale Saver Semi Flex Flex
12:19 Rio De Janeiro (Santos Dumont) Duration: 0h 51m 13:10 Sao Paulo (Guarulhos International) Stops: 0 G31707 $4318 485,500
$1426 156,800
$1776 196,000
$2226 247,000
17:15 Sao Paulo (Guarulhos International) Duration: 4h 25m 21:40 SantiagoStops: 0 LA761
23:55 SantiagoDuration: 13h 10m 04:05 Tue AucklandStops: 0 QF322
06:40 Tue AucklandDuration: 4h 15m 08:55 Tue MelbourneStops: 0 QF152
Total duration: 31h 36m
  • = Flight Operated by Latam Airlines Group S.A.
  • = Flight Operated by Vrg Linhas Aereas S A
12:19 Rio De Janeiro (Santos Dumont) Duration: 0h 51m 13:10 Sao Paulo (Guarulhos International) Stops: 0 G31707 $4318 485,500
$1426 156,800
$1776 196,000
$2226
 

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Not necessarily an error. I've seen plenty of sale fares that are more pricey than the Red e-Deals, Savers and Flex fares.
 

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Not necessarily an error. I've seen plenty of sale fares that are more pricey than the Red e-Deals, Savers and Flex fares.
So its a scam, to induce people to book more expensive fares?

I don't think Harvey Norman is allowed to put a 'SALE!' price tag of $4,000 on a sofa that usually costs $1,000 .
 

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so buy the flex.


So its a scam, to induce people to book more expensive fares?

I don't think Harvey Norman is allowed to put a 'SALE!' price tag of $4,000 on a sofa that usually costs $1,000 .
A flexi fare is a different product. There is nothing to prevent HN put a sofa on sale for $4000 and also selling a sofa with built in recliners, drink holders and a drinks fridge for $1000. There is no requirement for the party selling to obtain a fair value for the product.
 

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so buy the flex.




A flexi fare is a different product. There is nothing to prevent HN put a sofa on sale for $4000 and also selling a sofa with built in recliners, drink holders and a drinks fridge for $1000. There is no requirement for the party selling to obtain a fair value for the product.
I take your point, and was going to mention varying T&Cs in my post but opted for brevity :shock: .

But if Flex has the most generous T&Cs for the customer, then its the top-of-the-line fare in the cabin class. Any 'sale' under the 'reasonable person' test should be less costly than the most expensive regular option; unless that's true, its not a 'sale' but a 'mark-up'. This case might be more expensive than the cheapo-give-it-away fare (or sofa), but it should be less than what you would ordinarily pay for even one of the choices, shouldn't it?

(And I agree with you wrt 'fair value' - but in this case we are talking about holding out re a type of price - that's a consumer right issue, not a comment on their nous.)

Or am I reading Ansett's table incorrectly?
 

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I take your point, and was going to mention varying T&Cs in my post but opted for brevity :shock: .

But if Flex has the most generous T&Cs for the customer, then its the top-of-the-line fare in the cabin class. Any 'sale' under the 'reasonable person' test should be less costly than the most expensive regular option; unless that's true, its not a 'sale' but a 'mark-up'. This case might be more expensive than the cheapo-give-it-away fare (or sofa), but it should be less than what you would ordinarily pay for even one of the choices, shouldn't it?

(And I agree with you wrt 'fair value' - but in this case we are talking about holding out re a type of price - that's a consumer right issue, not a comment on their nous.)

Or am I reading Ansett's table incorrectly?
Fair points. I think we're reading it the same. The sofa analogy doesn't exactly fit, because a sofa is purchased as a particular sofa - i.e. the Jabiru 3 seater. So yes if a jabiru 3 seater was on sale for 3 times the non sale price of a jabiru 3 seater, that is an issue. I'm just not sure that flexi, saver and red-e-deal are the exact same product, even considering your points (which are fair and valid).

But having read your post, I'm not sure anymore......
 
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