RTW DONE4 earn OW

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Batesy

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Hello all and Merry Christmas
My wife & I are booked on our RTW done4 in business class next year with QF, AA & BA. I cant seem to find a decent points calculator that gets me my earn for both points and SC. Any assistance with calculating the earn on below would be appreciated. I am QF gold and the wife is QF silver.

Perth / Perth (PER), Perth, Western Australia Australia 12:15 PM ToSydney / Kingsford Smith (SYD), Sydney, New South Wales Australia 6:10 PM
StatusConfirmedCabinBusinessAircraftBoeing 747-300 Flight duration3:55Mileage2040 miles Disclaimer Stop(s)0 MealLunchSeat(s) - Non-smoking
- Non-smoking
Monthly Averages High: 66°F
Low: 52°F
Rainfall: 4.9 "
Trip tools:
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Status: Confirmed​

Qantas Airways QF 73 Sunday, May 27, 2007FromSydney / Kingsford Smith (SYD), Sydney, New South Wales Australia 1:55 PM ToSan Francisco / San Francisco Int'l (SFO), San Francisco, California USA 10:15 AMhttps://www.checkmytrip.com/ITN/CmtItinerarySummaryServlet#StatusConfirmedCabinBusinessAircraftBoeing 747-400 Flight duration13:20Mileage7417 miles Disclaimer Stop(s)0 MealLunch - RefreshmentsSeat(s) <A class=small onclick="MM_openBrWindow('SeatmapServlet?segmentid=1&SITE=ITN&LANGUAGE=US','','scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=630,height=510')" href="https://www.checkmytrip.com/ITN/CmtItinerarySummaryServlet#">25F - Non-smoking
25E - Non-smoking
Monthly Averages High: 66°F
Low: 48°F
Rainfall: 0.3 "
Currency 1.0 AUD = 0.782 USD​
Dialling codes:
» From Sydney To San Francisco: 0011 1
» From San Francisco To Sydney: 011 61​
Trip tools:
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Status: Confirmed​

American Airlines AA 1943 Tuesday, May 29, 2007FromSan Francisco / San Francisco Int'l (SFO), San Francisco, California USA 5:45 PM ToLos Angeles / Los Angeles Int'l (LAX), Los Angeles, California USA 7:10 PMhttps://www.checkmytrip.com/ITN/CmtItinerarySummaryServlet#StatusConfirmedCabinFirstAircraftMC Donnell Douglas MD-80 All Series Flight duration1:25Mileage348 miles Disclaimer Stop(s)0 Monthly Averages High: 70°F
Low: 55°F
Rainfall: 0.1 "
Trip tools:
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Status: Confirmed​

American Airlines AA 3103 Thursday, May 31, 2007FromLos Angeles / Los Angeles Int'l (LAX), Los Angeles, California USA 10:55 AM ToLas Vegas / Mccarran Int'l (LAS), Las Vegas, Nevada USA 12:05 PMhttps://www.checkmytrip.com/ITN/CmtItinerarySummaryServlet#StatusConfirmedCabinCoachAircraftEmbraer RJ140 Flight duration1:10Mileage236 miles Disclaimer Stop(s)0 MealFood for PurchaseMonthly Averages High: 88°F
Low: 59°F
Rainfall: 0.2 "

Status: Confirmed​

American Airlines AA 1482 Sunday, June 3, 2007FromLas Vegas / Mccarran Int'l (LAS), Las Vegas, Nevada USA 10:10 AM ToChicago / O'Hare Int'l (ORD), Chicago, Illinois USA 3:40 PMhttps://www.checkmytrip.com/ITN/CmtItinerarySummaryServlet#StatusConfirmedCabinFirstAircraftBoeing 757-200/300 Flight duration3:30Mileage1515 miles Disclaimer Stop(s)0 Seat(s) 06E - Non-smoking
Monthly Averages High: 77°F
Low: 55°F
Rainfall: 4.1 "
Trip tools:
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Status: Confirmed​

American Airlines AA 358 Tuesday, June 5, 2007FromChicago / O'Hare Int'l (ORD), Chicago, Illinois USA 4:20 PM ToNew York / La Guardia (LGA), New York, New York USA 7:35 PMhttps://www.checkmytrip.com/ITN/CmtItinerarySummaryServlet#StatusConfirmedCabinFirstAircraftMC Donnell Douglas MD-80 All Series Flight duration2:15Mileage733 miles Disclaimer Stop(s)0 Seat(s) 06B - Non-smoking
Monthly Averages High: 79°F
Low: 63°F
Rainfall: 3.1 "
Trip tools:
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Status: Confirmed​

American Airlines AA 4769 Monday, June 11, 2007FromNew York / John F Kennedy Int'l (JFK), New York, New York USA 9:50 AM ToWashington / R Reagan National (DCA), Washington, District of Columbia USA 11:01 AMhttps://www.checkmytrip.com/ITN/CmtItinerarySummaryServlet#StatusConfirmedCabinCoachAircraftEmbraer RJ135 Flight duration1:11Mileage214 miles Disclaimer Stop(s)0 MealFood for PurchaseSeat(s) 03A - Non-smoking
Monthly Averages High: 82°F
Low: 63°F
Rainfall: 3.3 "
Trip tools:
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Status: Confirmed​

British Airways BA 216 Wednesday, June 13, 2007FromWashington / Dulles Int'l (IAD), Washington, District of Columbia USA 7:00 PM ToLondon / Heathrow (LHR), London United Kingdom 7:05 AMTerminal: 4 (Thursday)StatusConfirmedCabinBusinessAircraftBoeing 747-400 Flight duration7:05Mileage3670 miles Disclaimer Stop(s)0 MealMealSeat(s) <A class=small onclick="MM_openBrWindow('SeatmapServlet?segmentid=7&SITE=ITN&LANGUAGE=US','','scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=630,height=510')" href="https://www.checkmytrip.com/ITN/CmtItinerarySummaryServlet#">61K - Non-smoking
61J - Non-smoking
Monthly Averages High: 68°F
Low: 52°F
Rainfall: 2.0 "
Currency 1.0 USD = 0.511 GBP​
Dialling codes:
» From Washington To London: 011 44
» From London To Washington: 00 1​
Trip tools:
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Status: Confirmed​

British Airways BA 1452 Tuesday, June 19, 2007FromLondon / Heathrow (LHR), London United Kingdom 4:15 PM Terminal: 1 ToEdinburgh / Edinburgh (EDI), Edinburgh United Kingdom 5:35 PMStatusConfirmedCabinBusinessAircraftBoeing 757-200/300 Flight duration1:20Mileage329 miles Disclaimer Stop(s)0 MealSnack or BrunchSeat(s) <A class=small onclick="MM_openBrWindow('SeatmapServlet?segmentid=8&SITE=ITN&LANGUAGE=US','','scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=630,height=510')" href="https://www.checkmytrip.com/ITN/CmtItinerarySummaryServlet#">06C - Non-smoking
06B - Non-smoking
Monthly Averages High: 63°F
Low: 48°F

Status: Confirmed​

British Airways BA 1455 Friday, June 22, 2007FromEdinburgh / Edinburgh (EDI), Edinburgh United Kingdom 5:20 PM ToLondon / Heathrow (LHR), London United Kingdom 6:40 PMTerminal: 1 StatusConfirmedCabinBusinessAircraftBoeing 757-200/300 Flight duration1:20Mileage329 miles Disclaimer Stop(s)0 MealSnack or BrunchSeat(s) <A class=small onclick="MM_openBrWindow('SeatmapServlet?segmentid=9&SITE=ITN&LANGUAGE=US','','scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=630,height=510')" href="https://www.checkmytrip.com/ITN/CmtItinerarySummaryServlet#">06C - Non-smoking
06B - Non-smoking
Monthly Averages High: 68°F
Low: 52°F
Rainfall: 2.0 "
Trip tools:
Subway map

Status: Confirmed​

Qantas Airways QF 10 Friday, June 22, 2007FromLondon / Heathrow (LHR), London United Kingdom 10:05 PM Terminal: 4 ToSingapore / Changi (SIN), Singapore Singapore 5:55 PMTerminal: 1 (Saturday)StatusConfirmedCabinBusinessAircraftBoeing 747-400 Flight duration12:50Mileage6772 miles Disclaimer Stop(s)0 MealRefreshments - MealSeat(s) <A class=small onclick="MM_openBrWindow('SeatmapServlet?segmentid=10&SITE=ITN&LANGUAGE=US','','scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=630,height=510')" href="https://www.checkmytrip.com/ITN/CmtItinerarySummaryServlet#">25F - Non-smoking
25E - Non-smoking
Monthly Averages High: 88°F
Low: 75°F
Rainfall: 6.8 "
Currency 1.0 GBP = 3.022 SGD​
Dialling codes:
» From London To Singapore: 00 65
» From Singapore To London: 001 44​
Trip tools:
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Status: Confirmed​

Qantas Airways QF 72 Saturday, June 30, 2007FromSingapore / Changi (SIN), Singapore Singapore 9:05 AM Terminal: 1 ToPerth / Perth (PER), Perth, Western Australia Australia 2:10 PMStatusConfirmedCabinBusinessAircraftAirbus Industrie A330-300 Flight duration5:05Mileage2420 miles Disclaimer Stop(s)0 MealLunchSeat(s) <A class=small onclick="MM_openBrWindow('SeatmapServlet?segmentid=11&SITE=ITN&LANGUAGE=US','','scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=630,height=510')" href="https://www.checkmytrip.com/ITN/CmtItinerarySummaryServlet#">02F - Non-smoking
02E - Non-smoking
Monthly Averages High: 64°F
Low: 50°F
Rainfall: 8.0 "
Currency 1.0 SGD = 0.828 AUD​
Dialling codes:
» From Singapore To Perth: 001 61
» From Perth To Singapore: 0011 65​
 
Try MilageMonkey

Put your flight segments into this tool: Mileage Monkey 0.95 page

Note that you will have to allow for the AA A & L class segment SC's rather than J.

Also, I note you are not including any Asian segments. I don't know your time frame/needs/budget, but you could also visit a couple of other asian countries at no change to the base fare, only in the applicable +++'s.

e.g. -(SIN-HKG-NRT-HKG-SIN)- or go LHR-(HKG-NRT-TPE-HKG-SIN)-PER

Furthermore you have anough segments left to do a quick return almost to the east coast; again only for additional +++'s. It must be completed within a year of your original departure. Since you already have gone PER-SYD this is a bit restricted; however business class routings like PER-ADL-ASP-PER or PER-CBR-ADL-PER are possible.
 
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I hope this is right!

For a QF Gold
Code:
Route        Class    Base     Cabin    Status     Total    Status  
                     Miles     Bonus     Bonus     Miles   Credits
PER-SYD   QF   J      2040       510      1020      3570        80
SYD-SFO   QF   J      7417      1855      3709     12981       180
SFO-LAX   AA   A       348       174       174       696        60
LAX-LAS   AA   L       236                 118       500*       10
LAX-ORD   AA   A      1515       758       758      3031       120
Loyalty Bonus                                       5000
ORD-LGA   AA   A       733       367       367      1467        90
LGA-DCA   AA   L       214                 107       500*       10
DCA-LHR   BA   J      3670       918      1835      6423       120
LHR-EDI   BA   J       329        83       165       659        40
EDI-LHR   BA   J       329        83       165       659        40
LHR-SIN   QF   J      6772      1693      3386     11851       160
Loyalty Bonus                                       5000
SIN-PER   QF   J      2420       605      1210      4235       100
******* Total *******                              56572      1010

For a QF Silver

Code:
Route        Class    Base     Cabin    Status     Total    Status  
                     Miles     Bonus     Bonus     Miles   Credits
PER-SYD   QF   J      2040       510       510      3060        80
SYD-SFO   QF   J      7417      1855      1855     11127       180
SFO-LAX   AA   A       348       174        87       609        60
LAX-LAS   AA   L       236                  59       500*       10
LAX-ORD   AA   A      1515       758       379      2652       120
Loyalty Bonus                                       5000
ORD-LGA   AA   A       733       367       184      1284        90
LGA-DCA   AA   L       214                  54       500*       10
DCA-LHR   BA   J      3670       918       918      5506       120
LHR-EDI   BA   J       329        83        83       500*       40
EDI-LHR   BA   J       329       165        83       500*       40
LHR-SIN   QF   J      6772      1693      1693     10158       160
Loyalty Bonus                                       5000
SIN-PER   QF   J      2420       605       605      3630       100
******* Total *******                              50026      1010
 
Thanks John K. Much appreciated. How did you figure all of that out? Have you got a calculator that I cant find?
 
Batesy said:
How did you figure all of that out? Have you got a calculator that I cant find?
I did all the calculations manually but it doesn't take that long if you know where to look for the information.

The class of travel and base miles are in your posted itinerary above. Cabin bonus is base miles * 25% for J class and base miles * 50% for A (F) class. Status bonus is base miles * 25% for QF Silver and base miles * 50% for QF Gold. Note that status bonus is only paid on QF, BA and AA flights.

The status credits can be calculated using this table and referencing the base miles and class of travel. Your L class flights are Discount economy, D class flights are business and A class flights are First.

Total miles is an addition of base miles + cabin bonus + status bonus. With BA and AA travel in business class or first class there is a minimum of 500 miles which I have noted with an asterisk.

Loyalty bonus of 5,000 points is paid for every 450 SC's. It works on a rolling 450 SC's basis. I just gave a rough estimation based on the SC's for the trip. If you want to know exactly when your next loyalty bonus is due you need to log into you QFF account and view the summary.
 
The mileage monkey gives the miles (easy to import to Excel) and then form there I assume JohnK has a straighforward spreadsheet to calcuate the miles. I use a vlookup to calculate SCs based on the table from Qantas
 
simongr said:
The mileage monkey gives the miles (easy to import to Excel) and then form there I assume JohnK has a straighforward spreadsheet to calcuate the miles.
I am not quite as sophisticated as you Simon! It all happened as I explained, I used notepad and calculated all the bonuses, total miles and status credits manually without assistance from calculators or spreadsheets.
 
simongr said:
The mileage monkey gives the miles (easy to import to Excel) and then form there I assume JohnK has a straighforward spreadsheet to calcuate the miles. I use a vlookup to calculate SCs based on the table from Qantas

I have a spreadsheet that does that and has many thousands of routes mileages saved in it.
 
First off, you're going the wrong way. East to west is usually more convenient than the other way. Travel with the sun and you get better flight times and avoid overnighters. Mind you, with your trip, you've got so many stopovers it probably doesn't matter. Plenty of time to recover from flights.

Second, I don't like those coach class trips in small planes. Sure, the little Embraers are a hoot to fly in, but there's only a couple of cabin attendants and you have to pay for your snacks. I can't say that the MD-80s are much better up front, though at least you get the status points for First.

Third, flying Qantas when Cathay Pacific can do the same sectors is a waste. Qantas is OK in Business, but CX just spoils the hell out of you. And you get to relax in one of their elegant Hong Kong lounges.

Fourth, you've got a total of eight sectors unused, including one North American sector. I'd ditch one of the Embraer sectors and do the same trip via Miami in a bigger plane. Add in a quick Japan trip (via Cathay Pacific, natch) and you've still got three sectors you can use to fly Perth-Sydney-Melbourne-Perth several months after you finish the RTW trip.

If you do it properly, you should be able to make Platinum out of a DONE4. The real experts can do it twice over..
 
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Skyring said:
First off, you're going the wrong way. East to west is usually more convenient than the other way. Travel with the sun and you get better flight times and avoid overnighters.

I know I'm in the minority here but I find I travel RTWs eastwards almost every time. Why? Because eastwards I can leave NZ in the evening so I don't lose a day, on arrival from asia/australia in the middle of the day have some hours with shops/banks/etc open to see to anything that needs seeing to. Going westwards means losing the day of departure, and arriving back in NZ very early in the morning (5-6am) - not the easiest to come back to work to.

I also find a middle of day arrival helps adjust body clock much easier. I'm probably tired (packing too much in and the final flight departs early hours of morning NZ time) but several hours of daylight and crash for good sleep. OTOH arriving very early in the morning is tough - to last a whole day feeling tired.
 
Kiwi Flyer said:
Going westwards means losing the day of departure, and arriving back in NZ very early in the morning (5-6am) - not the easiest to come back to work to.

I also find a middle of day arrival helps adjust body clock much easier. I'm probably tired (packing too much in and the final flight departs early hours of morning NZ time) but several hours of daylight and crash for good sleep. OTOH arriving very early in the morning is tough - to last a whole day feeling tired.
Point taken about leaving after a day at work. You get to sleep on the plane and arrive in the USA in mid-morning, which isn't too bad if you can sleep on the plane, which is a lot easier up front than squeezed into the back.

But I'm not a fan of overnight flights, unless I'm very pressed for time. Breaking the thing up into bite-sized chunks, leaving in mid-morning and arriving in mid-afternoon, spending the night in a real bed. That's my preference. And it's a lot easier to do this going east to west, regardless of flight length: my last transPacific was JFK-NAR, and the whole flight was more or less lunchtime. Besides, for me, half the pleasure is being able to look out the window and I get to see a lot more during the day time.
 
Skyring said:
Point taken about leaving after a day at work. You get to sleep on the plane and arrive in the USA in mid-morning, which isn't too bad if you can sleep on the plane, which is a lot easier up front than squeezed into the back.

But I'm not a fan of overnight flights, unless I'm very pressed for time. Breaking the thing up into bite-sized chunks, leaving in mid-morning and arriving in mid-afternoon, spending the night in a real bed. That's my preference. And it's a lot easier to do this going east to west, regardless of flight length: my last transPacific was JFK-NAR, and the whole flight was more or less lunchtime. Besides, for me, half the pleasure is being able to look out the window and I get to see a lot more during the day time.

There isn't much to see on a flight between Oz/NZ and US whether it is nighttime or daytime ;)
 
Kiwi Flyer said:
There isn't much to see on a flight between Oz/NZ and US whether it is nighttime or daytime ;)
Yeah! I've done that thing three times now. It's a killer leg, though good for catching up on movies. That's why the last time was JFK-SYD via Narita which had a lot of scenery, and before that I went SFO-HNL-SYD. Sure and the flight to Honolulu is very watery, but the second leg has a lot of islands to look at, and that's fun.

Then again, I'm usually happy to just stare out the window and think deep thoughts, even if all I can see is wrinkled ocean far beneath. That's very different to my normal daily views. I've always got my laptop nearby to do some writing, and getting into a different headspace sets the creative juices flowing.
 
I know what you mean, and it reminds me I have some more trip reports to write.
 
Kiwi Flyer said:
I know what you mean, and it reminds me I have some more trip reports to write.
And you do it so well!
 
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