Report on JQ Evacuation at HBT May 2005

[NM]

From news.com.au

'Chatty' crew added to chaos

CHATTY cabin crew and a worker on the airport tarmac with no emergency training helped create a chaotic evacuation of a Jetstar plane in which passengers were injured, a report has found.

The 26 passengers were evacuated from the Jetstar Boeing 717 at Hobart airport in May last year after a mechanical failure.

 

[mileagemax]

Would love to know what they were chatting about.

In an emergency situation, it seems wierd that they would be talking about the footy, or their plans for the weekend. :shock:

 

[SF&]

I remember a skywest flight broome to darwin last year or the year before the plane arrived 3-4 hours behind schedule for starters, the weather was cough high winds and rain i think a cyclone was building; anyway we finally board at midnight our 14:00pm flight the pilot goes to taxi and the lights go out and the engine goes out, we all get off after sitting on their for an hour. ( by the way the pilot is on his mobile to the enigineer in perth standing in the galley ) finally re board in an hour off we go... in mid flight i fall asleep i awake to a rush off air as the plane drops dramatically i open my eyes to see the hostie making a bee line for the seat next to me a young girl... so i think we going down coming out of a deep sleep, some passengers screamed which didn't help... the hostie is white a n grabbing my arm which is already holding tight onto the arm rest and says to me ' oh my god were not even trained for this aircraft........ ' the plane levels out after five minutes of major ups and downs and lots of air noise. Worst flight worst crew mind you not their fault

 

[oz_mark]

If you are keen, you can read the ATSB report here: 200502137

 

[Yada Yada]

Hmmm... this doesn't exactly fill me with confidence, especially the bit about the crew not properly arming the doors. :shock:

And this bit of the article seems strange:

Jetstar had made changes to passenger training since the incident.

Shouldn't they be making changes to crew training???

 

[maninblack]

Funny how nowhere in ther govt report does it seem to actually mention the name of the operator (Jetstar). Sounds like a fairly ordinary performance given the plane was only carrying 26 passengers. Seems the crew on AF 358 at YYZ might have been better trained thank goodness.

 

[JohnK]

Hmmm... this doesn't exactly fill me with confidence, especially the bit about the crew not properly arming the doors. :shock:

Hmmm.... you are not alone.

Embrace the future of the Australian skies!

 

[straitman]

Hmmm... this doesn't exactly fill me with confidence, especially the bit about the crew not properly arming the doors. :shock:

And this bit of the article seems strange:

Shouldn't they be making changes to crew training???

The FF's could probably help out here and ensure the crew actually arm the doors properly. :shock:

Everyone knows how to arm the doors, don't they :?:

 

[N860CR]

Quote:
Jetstar had made changes to passenger training since the incident.

Shouldn't they be making changes to crew training???

Nope, part of the new Jetstar conditions of carriage. Pax are responsible for their own evacuations in the event of an emergency. Escape slides are available for purchase however have cash ready because chances are the crew won't bother getting the credit card machine for you.

 

[rwatts]

The FF's could probably help out here and ensure the crew actually arm the doors properly. :shock:

Everyone knows how to arm the doors, don't they :?:

Well having read the ATSB report, I certainly do now ! (at least for a 717)

I confess I have always wondered exactly what "armed" meant - not really what I imagined.

 

[oz_mark]

Funny how nowhere in ther govt report does it seem to actually mention the name of the operator (Jetstar). Sounds like a fairly ordinary performance given the plane was only carrying 26 passengers. Seems the crew on AF 358 at YYZ might have been better trained thank goodness.

Training is one thing, but from my reading it would seem the operators procedures leave something to be desired.

 

[straitman]

Training is one thing, but from my reading it would seem the operators procedures leave something to be desired.

I agree entirely.

You need decent procedures so that you can then train people. Pretty basic really :!:

 

[Yada Yada]

Everyone knows how to arm the doors, don't they :?:

Yep, and cross check.

 

[serfty]

Yep, and cross check.

Quite observable from Row 1 on DJ 737's

 

[maninblack]

Training is one thing, but from my reading it would seem the operators procedures leave something to be desired.

Fully agree.

As Laurie (Jack Thompson) observes in "The Club", "yeah, well we all look good at training"

 

[Mish]

Hmmm... this doesn't exactly fill me with confidence, especially the bit about the crew not properly arming the doors. :shock:

And this bit of the article seems strange:

Shouldn't they be making changes to crew training???

Call me a synic but wouldn't that result in an increase in ticket prices???

Higher trained crews cost more... no doubts they'd pass the cost on.