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I had to use twitter to modify an award booking, late last Thursday night. I couldn't make the change myself as I'd already checked in the day before. I called the premium number between 21:00-22:30 and waited on hold for a collective 47 minutes. I made several other call attempts but was advised the wait time was over 40 minutes. The call back option wasn't appropriate because I was planning to be awake at 5am for a 6am start. My flight was at 13:35.

Eventually I sent a tweet to @qantas and the issue was resolved by 08:30 on Friday morning. I had to pay the 5000 points for the change. It was a frustrating experience and it has never happened before. Hopefully never again.
 
At least they are now telling us officially what has really happened 12+ months ago.

Personally i think if you have a group of engaged clients who spend significant money of your brand you should be active in their forums. Here we are being asked to go to the mountain (there FB and twitter accounts). It's a pull back, less personalised service.

Most Gold and above QF members on AFF are likely people who promote the benefits of flying with QFF.
 
I will be hitting LT Gold on my next flight in 2.5 weeks' time and with this comment of mine:
Unfortunately, Qf F* is nothing special but I agree that QF F is better than QF J ;)

* Imo, on A380, EY F > SQ F / EK F > TG F > QF F :)
...I'll be flying other alrlines' premium cabins a lot more in the future.. the "old Red Roo" 's service recovery efforts and help etc on this site kept me very loyal to QF the last few years when I have directed over 20K per year of work travel to Qf flights, and maintained QF platinum status for the last 7 years. I expect some return, enhanced service and recognition from QF, and the "old Red Roo" did provide some return but now....... :( :(
 
does seem very short sighted of Qantas - hanging out for LTG and then I'll be much less likely to use them
 
Yes, I can tell you the exact difference having recently dropped levels.

Last month the longest I was waiting was comfortably under 5 minutes, as a Platinum.

This month I was offered a call back because of the wait times, and received it a whopping 2 hours and 6 minutes after I initially called, as a Gold.

One thing VA do well is call centre wait times, as a red 15-30minutes as a silver longest wait has been 5 minutes(I believe they push silver to the front of the red line), gold and i'm guessing plat answers instantly after the privacy statement.
 
From a personal stand point I see this move as short sighted. There are many members here with Qantas status who are far more active here than on other forms of social media, and not taking AFF as seriously as those other, largely international forms of social media, despite this being an Australian website with many Australian members just seems like a silly move.

I think the answer may be that there's little or no competition. The golden handcuffs of status keep those with status flying QF. No need to go over and above.

And the big issues? Never get addressed. 2 hour call wait times. Delays. Downgrades with little or no compensation.

Those with status still snap up DSC promotions. And still purchase higher fare tickets to join the upgrade lottery. And book flights to SIN with Mk1 skybeds.

Any airline would monitor boards like these to look out for loop holes and to learn what their customers are up to. But they need a real incentive to actively participate.
 
Yea

havent found a way to bypass the checkout

oops. I bought 8 great fares and forgot to pay for the last one...
 
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Thank-you to the team for all the help in the past. The previous Red Roo, who I think has now left was amazingly proactive and helpful, and probably kept me flying QF a lot longer than I should have. :). I don't think I have seen a Red Roo comment in many months, so no surprise.
 
I had to use twitter to modify an award booking, late last Thursday night. I couldn't make the change myself as I'd already checked in the day before. I called the premium number between 21:00-22:30 and waited on hold for a collective 47 minutes. I made several other call attempts but was advised the wait time was over 40 minutes. The call back option wasn't appropriate because I was planning to be awake at 5am for a 6am start. My flight was at 13:35.

Eventually I sent a tweet to @qantas and the issue was resolved by 08:30 on Friday morning. I had to pay the 5000 points for the change. It was a frustrating experience and it has never happened before. Hopefully never again.

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So the message from Qantas is clear. Tweet your on hold screen cap to @qantas or their fb page with: #callmeback
 
Not everyone uses Facebook and Twitter. Not going to start using them either.

Very disappointing Qantas. Just because the opposition doesn't provide the service any more doesn't mean you have to stop.
 
But Twitter has 1000000 members who fly 20SC annually and earn 10,000 points each, thus making it a worthwhile channel to monitor, right? (I'll ignore the geeky stuff like Twitters k-NN analytic ability and how QF may exploit this).

That's the one where a Bronze member who has just flown a BNE-SYD for $125 and had a bad experience with a recliner onboard complains to Qantas (and their own 1 million+ followers) on Twitter, and gets great customer service because of the 1 million followers who may be potential customers. Yet a Platinum One member who has just completed a flight to take them over 7,000 SC needs help but is overseas and can't call the SST, so tweets Qantas (and their 2 other followers – most likely a family member and a bot) and because of their low follower count, is overlooked for two days.

I can understand that of those 1 million+ followers for the Bronze member, some may be potential customers one day. However, it's an unknown, and you're focusing on the wrong person. Now, the Platinum One member may only have 2 followers who see you resolve their issue, but at their incredible level of SC earn for that year, they are surely a much higher value customer to your business.

Fast forward a thousand times of treating the Bronze members with a large social media following better than the Platinum One members with almost no following and you may have lost the trust of a group of members spending thousands a year, in exchange for members who say they would fly you, but haven't translated that into sales yet.

In short, they're focusing on the wrong customers with this change.

Most Gold and above QF members on AFF are likely people who promote the benefits of flying with QFF.

My mother flew CX between HKG and Australia when I first joined AFF. She now flies QF Business exclusively, getting a far better deal, increased comfort on the new A330 suites and last year made it all the way to Platinum, despite never having gone higher than Gold before with CX.

My father is a CX Diamond, who I once tried to cover to QF with the enticement of LTG. Since CX changed their program he now splits his status between both carriers, maintaining CX Diamond and QF Platinum and actively checks how much a flight will earn before he chooses where to credit it.

If I had not have learned what I did here, now translated that into status for myself, they would not be customers too.

One thing VA do well is call centre wait times, as a red 15-30minutes as a silver longest wait has been 5 minutes(I believe they push silver to the front of the red line), gold and i'm guessing plat answers instantly after the privacy statement.

Part of the reason for smaller wait times could be the lower member base though.
 
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I had to use twitter to modify an award booking, late last Thursday night. I couldn't make the change myself as I'd already checked in the day before. I called the premium number between 21:00-22:30 and waited on hold for a collective 47 minutes. I made several other call attempts but was advised the wait time was over 40 minutes. The call back option wasn't appropriate because I was planning to be awake at 5am for a 6am start. My flight was at 13:35.

Eventually I sent a tweet to @qantas and the issue was resolved by 08:30 on Friday morning. I had to pay the 5000 points for the change. It was a frustrating experience and it has never happened before. Hopefully never again.


Incidentally this is why I don't use online check in and only check in when I make it to the airport.
 
It's a real shame but given lack of responses for the last 6 months I think we'd all seen the writing on wall a while ago.

I don't use it, chicka tells me it's 24-hours now but she still had issues using it last night, and despite being under the character limit, they still spelled her name wrong :p
Who still uses Twitter?
 
Funny thing I only ever use twitter to contact QF

I gave up on a twitter a long time ago but can see why some still use it. But I think if you look back at previous Red Roo engagement on this forum and past/current engagement on twitter you'll find one is far more superior.
 
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