Red Roo - No more F to HKG = No more A380/Skybed Mark 1?

[Daver6]

My booking with SWMBO for mid-Oct still shows as A380, but no ability to select the F seats. She is WP and myself SG. So either its not available yet or only available to P1 and CL members.

 

[eminere]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

and if you're not a platinum, why risk a droopy skybed?

Don't you get MkII Skybeds which are fully-flat?

 

[drron]

Well the switch to A380 on DFW... to me... says the opposite

To me it suggests the board want QFi to become QFUSUKDXB.

 

[mannej]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

Don't you get MkII Skybeds which are fully-flat?

The MkII have had the issue of the droop.

As a WP in J, is the risk not the same no matter if you are flying J on a 380 or 747?
You can only fit a limited number of pax into the F section of the 380 can you not.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

Don't you get MkII Skybeds which are fully-flat?

reports suggest many of them are otherwise and passengers are forced to find their own solutions to rectify the design issues

 

[JohnK]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

Does that mean I could be sitting in First on Tuesday 04 November?

 

[Mr_Orange]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

Well, at least the refurbed 747s have a PE cabin so all is not completely lost .

 

[sydstar]

Fantastic news for me.

All routes to Asia on aircraft with 2 bulkhead aisles available for pre-allocation where as the 747 had at least 8 bulkhead seats available for pre-allocation. I couldn't care less about one skybed over the other or whether premium economy is available.

May have to look for suitable alternative.

The problem QF will have is actually running out of 747s to use for Asia, considering they will soon have only a fleet of 9 for use on SYD/BNE-LAX, SYD-SCL and SYD-JNB. Even considering SCL is only 3x weekly, that leaves minimal frames left for NRT and HKG, not to mention the rumour about BNE-DFW as well

 

[JohnPhelan]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

as far as I'm aware the downgrade compensation table isn't part of the terms and conditions a passenger accepts when they buy a ticket from qantas.

If you have purchased a ticket in First class, you should be entitled to first class where a company makes a commercial decision to cut the service.

Qantas should offer passengers alternative tickets on Singapore Airlines First class.

Most bizarre suggestion of the year. If transferring to another airline, it would be CX, as it's a direct flight and a OW partner. Where on earth did SQ come from?

 

[ketsuzei]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

Most bizarre suggestion of the year. If transferring to another airline, it would be CX, as it's a direct flight and a OW partner. Where on earth did SQ come from?

Presumably the fact that CX don't offer F on the route.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

Presumably the fact that CX don't offer F on the route.

Most bizarre suggestion of the year. If transferring to another airline, it would be CX, as it's a direct flight and a OW partner. Where on earth did SQ come from?

this.

If a person wanted to fly business class they could stay with QF. But business class doesn't suit everyone.

I think if you have purchased a First class fare - and this probably affects award tickets more than paid fares - you should be accommodated in F.

 

[under the radar]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

I disagree. If you are going to actively choose to engage with stakeholders, you should do it consistently. This benefits everyone.

If you can remove confusion you should do so.

If you can contact the relevant department, you should do so.

What is the advantage of your potential 'endorser' stakeholder base not having the best information they can?

Members on AFF not only decide their own travel, but also influence the travel decisions of others.

Without solutions to real problems (and there have been plenty highlighted on AFF), you can't necessarily expect people to endorse your product.

There is nothing DYKWIA about it.

My opinion is that best practice is to deal with the range of issues, not just those which are potentially easier.

we will agree to disagree

happy flying

 

[eminere]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

The MkII have had the issue of the droop.

reports suggest many of them are otherwise and passengers are forced to find their own solutions to rectify the design issues

Was not aware of this! Yikes... :-|

 

[Flying mermaid]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

How sad - still there is a silver lining - I love Singapore and Hong Kong and if I go F with Singapore air I can do both - I have always wanted to try them as well. Will miss the A380 to Hong Kong though and the Cathay lounge......

 

[Mr_Orange]

Re: Rumour:[Denied by RR] Qantas to ban JQ SYD-MEL pax from F lounges & send to J lou

Was not aware of this! Yikes... :-|

Well you are now , and IME a droopy Mk2 is no different to an angled Mk1 from a comfort perspective.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

this.

If a person wanted to fly business class they could stay with QF. But business class doesn't suit everyone.

I think if you have purchased a First class fare - and this probably affects award tickets more than paid fares - you should be accommodated in F.

This would be almost unheard of in the industry.

Most normal people going syd-hkg would rather fly j than add about 5 hours to the trip via sin anyway

 

[Red Roo]

Qantas has not published any changes yet. However as with any schedule change, we'll be contacting effected customers, either directly or via their booking agent once the changes have been confirmed.

We're currently finalising the mix of operating aircraft flying SYD/HKG in order to facilitate the upgrade of the DFW services. While we've been talking about these changes for some time (Qantas customers to experience world-class A380 services to Dallas/Fort Worth), it's not unusual to make the subsequent required revisions internally without a follow up announcement.

There are several variable factors involved in making such a major adjustment to our operating schedule including aircraft availability, patterning and seasonal demand. Given the significant capacity difference, options for the A380 to be available during peak times are currently being considered. I'll be able to share more about this in coming weeks.

On a lighter note, this circumstance will present the opportunity for some of our most frequent fliers travelling in Business to access seats in the First cabin on days when the A380 does operate to HKG. I’ll leave this to the forum to discuss further.

Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to say I'm flattered to know Red Roo's presence on AFF is valued. I've had the pleasure of meeting, and assisting some of you on occasions, and hope to continue engaging with this community moving forward. However to clarify, my activity on AFF is not to replace existing official Qantas channels. Apologies to those who perceived this differently. Comments about the frequency of my activity have been noted with my manager.

 

[Mr_Orange]

Thanks for the reply Red Roo. I appreciate that your reply probably needed to be vetted by those above you to ensure the correct message.

 

[Flying mermaid]

This would be almost unheard of in the industry.

Most normal people going syd-hkg would rather fly j than add about 5 hours to the trip via sin anyway

Not me - I always thought Mr FM and I weren't normal! Seriously love flying, love F, 40 days to retirement (not that I am counting) so plenty of time, so much rather take a bit extra and go F. we have already booked F to Nairobi in Aug with Emirates and then a quick J down to South Africa, rather than J SYD-JNB. haven't counted the extra flying time, but probably a lot more than 5 hours!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Not me - I always thought Mr FM and I weren't normal! Seriously love flying, love F, 40 days to retirement (not that I am counting) so plenty of time, so much rather take a bit extra and go F. we have already booked F to Nairobi in Aug with Emirates and then a quick J down to South Africa, rather than J SYD-JNB. haven't counted the extra flying time, but probably a lot more than 5 hours!

that's once aspect, but the other regards connections in HKG. Currently QF F followed by a connection to China via HKG is fairly convenient.

Remove F to HKG and SQ via SIN becomes an equal option.

I guess the yields in the F cabin just weren't worth it.

On the timing of the announcement mu view is this.

If austBT can announce the end of First class, AFF should be in the know as well.

People want to make plans, and should have as much time as possible to do that. Why wait to be contacted by QFFF when then get around to finalising their timetables when you might want to grab an award seat via another route asap?

maybe I missed it, but with the announcement of A380s to DFW there could have been a sentence saying this would also mean the end of First class to hong kong.