Ready for Take-Off (TV show)

[MEL_Traveller]

apparently they did have a spare except the spare was faulty as well.

IIRC they were very careful in their wording around this... they didn't say MEL had a 'new' part, just that they had a 'replacement' part. Which could suggest it had been previously repaired or reconditioned (if allowed under regulations for that part, obviously). Once they talked about SYD it became a 'new' part.

 

[Quickstatus]

Wonder which day the episode was filmed. According to FAware: 24/10 VHOQD as QF93 departed at 2044 and 23/9 it departed at 2149.

unable to look further back than 13/07(for free anyway) but I thnk its one of those two as the show was announced in July I think

 

[samh004]

apparently they did have a spare except the spare was faulty as well.

Interesting though that there was only 1 spare, as they do operate QF9 and QF93 from MEL, yet only had one part in stock. Perhaps the part has a high failure/replacement rate, thus they were all out on that day already. But it does show how SYD-focused they are.

I particularly liked the interviews with the passengers, the man claiming that it probably wasn't even mechanical, wonder how he feels now. Then the lady going to a wedding, seemingly the day before/of the wedding. Does no one allow for a few days buffer anymore?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I particularly liked the interviews with the passengers, the man claiming that it probably wasn't even mechanical, wonder how he feels now.

I think that was part of the point... proving the passenger wrong. It was perhaps designed so that in future when the airline announces a mechanical, people will believe it and not be skeptical.

We don't know how much information passengers were given. It may have been as limited as 'mechanical', without explaining exactly what the mechanical issue was. Most airlines refuse, for some reason, to go into details. That might have been relevant in the past, but in these days of social media and expectations of transparency, I don't think it washes so much.

 

[moa999]

the pilot was called in to give a departure time and said he couldn't foresee any additional delays. Except he completely ignored crew hours which caused another delay.

Think at the time the pilot made the announcement the part was on its way from SYD and they were expecting a 1430 departure. Crew didn't time out till 1515 so something else which wasn't well explained occurred

apparently they did have a spare except the spare was faulty as well.

small suggestion to QF: during such events where pax are waiting at gate, would it be possible for CC to go around the gate with a drinks/snacks trolley.

From experience, pretty sure that pax waiting would have got vouchers for airport food Outlets (and suspect many got spent at the bar)

It may have been as limited as 'mechanical', without explaining exactly what the mechanical issue was. Most airlines refuse, for some reason, to go into details. That might have been relevant in the past, but in these days of social media and expectations of transparency, I don't think it washes so much.

I've seen quite detailed explanations given (from the pilot) for lengthy delays

 

[moa999]

unable to look further back than 13/07(for free anyway) but I thnk its one of those two as the show was announced in July I think

Mr.1000 from a week ago was filmed in early July so potentially filming started before?

 

[jb747]

The QF93 delay... interesting spin on it. It was trying to show how great QF is at managing IRROPS, but failed to address the issue of why there wasn't a spare part in Melbourne.

Realistically you can't have every spare at every port. Even dropping in to Toulouse wouldn't give you access to a spare everything. Which bits are you going to put where?

The aircraft actually carry a quite extensive kit of 'most likely' spares as part of their equipment.

 

[jb747]

IIRC they were very careful in their wording around this... they didn't say MEL had a 'new' part, just that they had a 'replacement' part. Which could suggest it had been previously repaired or reconditioned (if allowed under regulations for that part, obviously). Once they talked about SYD it became a 'new' part.

You're reading too much into it. If a part is back in the spares, whether it is refurbished or brand new, doesn't matter. It's a new part as far as anyone fitting it is concerned. Use of parts is very strictly controlled.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Realistically you can't have every spare at every port. Even dropping in to Toulouse wouldn't give you access to a spare everything. Which bits are you going to put where?

The aircraft actually carry a quite extensive kit of 'most likely' spares as part of their equipment.

That's fine - but shouldn't be a concern for the passenger. If an airline had to fork out ~$450,000 in compensation for this flight (as per EU261) it might be worthwhile to build storage.

You're reading too much into it. If a part is back in the spares, whether it is refurbished or brand new, doesn't matter. It's a new part as far as anyone fitting it is concerned. Use of parts is very strictly controlled.

It just seems odd that a brand new part would also be faulty. I could understand a repaired or refurbished part being faulty.

 

[jb747]

That's fine - but shouldn't be a concern for the passenger. If an airline had to fork out ~$450,000 in compensation for this flight (as per EU261) it might be worthwhile to build storage.

You still wouldn't have the bit you need.... But, it would force much more frequent use of the MELs...

It just seems odd that a brand new part would also be faulty. I could understand a repaired or refurbished part being faulty.

Seriously? You haven't spent much time around aircraft. New items are pretty much the most likely things to fail. I recall a tale about the Queen's flight, which was to the effect that no part was to be less than 25% of its design life, and nothing more than 75%. Might have the actual numbers wrong, but I'm sure you get the idea.

 

[trippin_the_rift]

I find the show is lacking something. Seems dull.

Also my respect level for airport workers has only decreased in these past 3 episodes. They all seem stressed - yet the tasks they appear to be completing seem very straight forward and not complex at all.

 

[timster]

I really, really object to places like immigration and baggage collection halls, where you have no choice but to attend / pass though, having filming allowed carte-blanche with the signs supposedly 'advising people' and therefore its OK. I've told film crews who were about to film me at an airport, a couple of times, that I didn't provide 'content' for their TV shows without a fee being paid, so bugger off. They got the message.

I really, really object to this too.

I've lost track of the number of times I've been through baggage claim at SYD international and seen the signs announcing that Border Security or somesuch garbage may be filming. Fortunately there's never been a crew there or I would have given them a serve too ! I find the underlying message of that show - "you should be scared of foreigners coming into Australia" - highly offensive.

Anyway, the average pax aren't allowed to use cameras in that hall, yet it's fine for a TV crew. So the reason why we can't film must obviously be really, really important.

 

[Mattg]

Is it just me, or has this week's episode still not been released on Jumpin yet?

 

[Cadboy]

Is it just me, or has this week's episode still not been released on Jumpin yet?

No its is not just you, I have been unable to I have been unable to find it online as well.

 

[Milefest]

Anyway, the average pax aren't allowed to use cameras in that hall, yet it's fine for a TV crew. So the reason why we can't film must obviously be really, really important.

Before the recording is broadcasted, it is screened to ensure that no sensitive footage is released to the public. These measures obviously can't be applied to pax with cameras.

 

[PLANT]

The fact that they let the wrong names of the planes......I'm bloody sensitive to this footage

 

[TheRealTMA]

I find the show is lacking something. Seems dull.

Also my respect level for airport workers has only decreased in these past 3 episodes. They all seem stressed - yet the tasks they appear to be completing seem very straight forward and not complex at all.

Yes I tend to agree with you. The one I saw last week where the woman in charge of the waiting passengers feeling so stressed, but IMHO with no empathy, seemed very fake. After all this was her job and it was just a relatively short delay of several hours. And they really did BA to assist passengers with complementary food or drinks. In Europe they would have been facing significant fines for the delay and have been more accommodating.

 

[Mattg]

It's becoming really difficult to overlook some of the obvious mistakes they're making in this show.

In the latest episode they showed "QF853 from CBR to ADL".

At the start of the segment it was 9am and the captain was getting ready for the flight.
Now, here's the thing - QF853 actually departs Canberra at 11:30 - and goes to Melbourne!

But it doesn't end there. The aircraft was clearly VH-VXC, a non-BSI 737. Yet at one point it shows the inside of a BSI aircraft with AVOD.
When they show the coughpit view of the plane taking off from "Canberra", they're clearly departing from runway 27 in Melbourne.
When QF853 is "20 minutes away from landing in Adelaide", the crew have just begun the meal service.
The plane then lands at 5pm - that's a long flight if the captain was getting ready to depart Canberra at 9am!

Bloody hell, you could make a drinking game out of this!

 

[Princess Fiona]

It's becoming really difficult to overlook some of the obvious mistakes they're making in this show.

In the latest episode they showed "QF853 from CBR to ADL".

At the start of the segment it was 9am and the captain was getting ready for the flight.
Now, here's the thing - QF853 actually departs Canberra at 11:30 - and goes to Melbourne!

But it doesn't end there. The aircraft was clearly VH-VXC, a non-BSI 737. Yet at one point it shows the inside of a BSI aircraft with AVOD.
When they show the coughpit view of the plane taking off from "Canberra", they're clearly departing from runway 27 in Melbourne.
When QF853 is "20 minutes away from landing in Adelaide", the crew have just begun the meal service.
The plane then lands at 5pm - that's a long flight if the captain was getting ready to depart Canberra at 9am!

Bloody hell, you could make a drinking game out of this!

I think you could but I also think that 99% of the viewers wouldn't notice any of this and that's who the program is aimed at.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

I think you could but I also think that 99% of the viewers wouldn't notice any of this and that's who the program is aimed at.

No idea who this program is aimed at. Nothing worse than watching other people fly!