QFF points becoming worthless for short hops?

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  1. Warks

    Warks Established Member

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    With the increase in taxes, surcharges, levies and brown envelopes is using QFF points for SYD-MEL or SYD-BNE (for example) now a waste? I know this has been discussed before but it seems to be getting worse.

    I just had to book an award flight SYD-BNE return and it was $91.70 in additional charges. Would be nice to see the breakdown of these charges on my receipt actually. Anyone know precisely?
    At the same time I could have booked a return with DJ for $198. So my 16000 points were worth $106.30 or 0.7 c per point.

    Best to save them for international flights? I have to save money wherever I can so had to use the points this time.

    What's the lowest (QF) taxed domestic route?
     

  2. Damien

    Damien Member

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    Yes. Personally, I think the best use of points is upgrading to business on a long haul flight.
     
  3. duffshot

    duffshot Member

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    Even better is from J - F
     
  4. oz_mark

    oz_mark Enthusiast

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    I agree. There is little value in redeeming points for a short hop.

    While upgrades can give you the best value for points, I still sometimes just do the whole international trip as a redemption. (Of course, the fuel levies are impacting on this as well)
     
  5. simongr

    simongr Enthusiast

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    I just booked a SYD-BNE return for me and mrs sim - $476. Which based on your calculation of cost of the tix being $91.70 per person per route - would make 64000 popints worth $109.2 or 0.17c/point - hence paying for the flights and switching to AA (possibly) ;)
     
  6. JohnK

    JohnK Veteran Member

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    Agree with most that the best value redemption is international travel upgrading to a higher cabin but no problem in using for domestic travel occassionally. It is not a total waste.

    Attending FT OzFest III in BNE last May tried to get paid seat for return BNE-SYD Sunday night and the cheapest fare was ~$145 (super saver). So I got award ticket instead for 8,000 FF points and ~$45 in fuel surcharges for a return 1.25c per point.
     
  7. JohnK

    JohnK Veteran Member

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    I think you have misread original post. The cost of additional taxes was $91.70/pp for return journey. So for you and mrs simongr the total taxes would have been $183.40 and a net airfare of $276.40, based on QF airfare of $460 (excluding expedia surcharge). You would only require 32,000 points or 0.86c/point.
     
  8. Yada Yada

    Yada Yada Established Member

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  9. thadocta

    thadocta Active Member

    It really depens on how many points you have and how many you get per annum.

    Up until recently, I would never have used points for short domestic hops like SYD-BNE.

    But with the soon-to-be-introduced option of points for taxes/charges, I might consider it.

    But then, I get around a million points per annum from credit cards.

    (And before you ask, I manage to requalify as a Gold FF, so I still do a lot of flying).

    So the points I get are mostly useless, using them for upgrades only will still see a lot of them go to waste.

    So rather than waste them, I will use them for short hops, such as SYD-BNE or SYD-MEL (but only once the points for taxes/charges option comes into play) - these points would otherwise go unused.

    So once again, it is horses for courses.

    Dave
     
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