QFF points becoming worthless for short hops?

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  1. Warks

    Warks Established Member

    Oct 9, 2003
    With the increase in taxes, surcharges, levies and brown envelopes is using QFF points for SYD-MEL or SYD-BNE (for example) now a waste? I know this has been discussed before but it seems to be getting worse.

    I just had to book an award flight SYD-BNE return and it was $91.70 in additional charges. Would be nice to see the breakdown of these charges on my receipt actually. Anyone know precisely?
    At the same time I could have booked a return with DJ for $198. So my 16000 points were worth $106.30 or 0.7 c per point.

    Best to save them for international flights? I have to save money wherever I can so had to use the points this time.

    What's the lowest (QF) taxed domestic route?

  2. Damien

    Damien Member

    Aug 29, 2005
    Yes. Personally, I think the best use of points is upgrading to business on a long haul flight.
  3. duffshot

    duffshot Member

    Apr 27, 2005
    Even better is from J - F
  4. oz_mark

    oz_mark Enthusiast

    Jun 30, 2002
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    I agree. There is little value in redeeming points for a short hop.

    While upgrades can give you the best value for points, I still sometimes just do the whole international trip as a redemption. (Of course, the fuel levies are impacting on this as well)
  5. simongr

    simongr Enthusiast

    Jul 10, 2006
    I just booked a SYD-BNE return for me and mrs sim - $476. Which based on your calculation of cost of the tix being $91.70 per person per route - would make 64000 popints worth $109.2 or 0.17c/point - hence paying for the flights and switching to AA (possibly) ;)
  6. JohnK

    JohnK Veteran Member

    Mar 22, 2005
    BNE, SYD and CNX
    Agree with most that the best value redemption is international travel upgrading to a higher cabin but no problem in using for domestic travel occassionally. It is not a total waste.

    Attending FT OzFest III in BNE last May tried to get paid seat for return BNE-SYD Sunday night and the cheapest fare was ~$145 (super saver). So I got award ticket instead for 8,000 FF points and ~$45 in fuel surcharges for a return 1.25c per point.
  7. JohnK

    JohnK Veteran Member

    Mar 22, 2005
    BNE, SYD and CNX
    I think you have misread original post. The cost of additional taxes was $91.70/pp for return journey. So for you and mrs simongr the total taxes would have been $183.40 and a net airfare of $276.40, based on QF airfare of $460 (excluding expedia surcharge). You would only require 32,000 points or 0.86c/point.
  8. Yada Yada

    Yada Yada Established Member

    Dec 6, 2004
  9. thadocta

    thadocta Active Member

    It really depens on how many points you have and how many you get per annum.

    Up until recently, I would never have used points for short domestic hops like SYD-BNE.

    But with the soon-to-be-introduced option of points for taxes/charges, I might consider it.

    But then, I get around a million points per annum from credit cards.

    (And before you ask, I manage to requalify as a Gold FF, so I still do a lot of flying).

    So the points I get are mostly useless, using them for upgrades only will still see a lot of them go to waste.

    So rather than waste them, I will use them for short hops, such as SYD-BNE or SYD-MEL (but only once the points for taxes/charges option comes into play) - these points would otherwise go unused.

    So once again, it is horses for courses.


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