QFF Membership Levels [numbers]

[Malecc]

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I was wondering if anyone out there knows the number of people that are qualified in various QFF levels, i.e. how many Paltinum One, Platinum & Gold memebre there are. I did hear that Qantas expected about 3,000 people to qualify for Platinum One. Likewsie how many peoplke have lifetime Gold?

The reason for my question is that I see so many Plantinum flyers these days, it seems every other QFF is Platinum. Does this mean the qualifying requirement is too low?

Malecc

 

[DTM1]

I don't know about the numbers, but the 3,000 P! sounds right from what I've heard.

Some routes clearly have more WPs than others eg MEL?SYD - PER (particularly in J, where it doesn't take that many flights to rack up the necessary SCs for WP). I think there would be many domestic routes with few WPs and I'm sure that some intl routes are fuller with WPs than others (depending on how many businesspeople travel those routes). SYD/MEL - LAX would have plenty, but SYD/HNL would not have as many.

I think that the best indicator of volume of WPs would be the success of WPs in getting points upgrades or booking award seats on flights - generally a good indicator.

I have no doubt that with the number of WPs on this site, we could have a really good go at working out easier and harder routes for upgrades based on experience, although this will only ever be a rough guide as loads are very dynamic.

 

[simongr]

Some numbers have been thrown around.

WP1 - 3,000
WP - 60,000

It is difficult to estimate and also difficult to assess whether there are "too many" WPs. Given that you are a WP1 - this means you are travelling on premium routes (unless you are one of the 2 or 3 poor suckers earning P1 on DOM whY flights). On those premium routes you are more likely to see WPs. However take a look at the priority boarding queues in SYD in the morning and you will see very few people in the WP/J lane which to me means that there aren't that many on the flights.

Also looking at seating - I am generally able to get third row of economy at booking which is the row reserved for WP - so there can't be that many more WP on the flight who have grabbed the seats already.

I think for some people WP is ridiculously easy - 3 returns to LHR in J gets you WP - that is not frequent flying but it is a lot of cash in the bank for QF.

 

[samh004]

You might see a lot of WP’s as you’re always in the lounges they’re found in. Wander into the QP and you’ll see a little less of them

 

[ozmille]

Was in the Flounge in BKK couple of days back and there were about 15 people in there for the QF2 departure, let's say about 4 or 5 were actually flying first that would make about 10 WP's (or OW equivalent or guests of the first pax or guests of another WP) on a pretty full 747 flight.

 

[harvyk]

The reason for my question is that I see so many Plantinum flyers these days, it seems every other QFF is Platinum.

I'm not sure where you keep seeing WP's, however if they are at the airport or on a plane then it is of no surprise, a WP is far more likely to be at an airport and flying than a person of a lower level (eg NB \ PS \ SG).

 

[samh004]

On the LTG issue, I’d imagine most LTG are currently a higher level within QFF or AAnother program, and those that aren’t are probably seniors and not expected to be a burden to the system, and will eventually not be a part of the system. So keeping the goal at 14,000 SC is still worthwhile.

 

[Princess Fiona]

I think for some people WP is ridiculously easy - 3 returns to LHR in J gets you WP - that is not frequent flying but it is a lot of cash in the bank for QF.

I resemble that remark

 

[Oneworldplus2]

I read somewhere that there are around 5000-7000 CL's.
More CL's than WP1's. (I could be wrong).

 

[DTM1]

that sounds correct to me, as CL is a broader group of who's who (and more relevantly, their partners), but who may not fly much at all.

I often try to look at the pax manifest when they serve meals/drinks and, at least domestically, it seems to be around half have WP or SG status.

Interestingly, the past couple of times I flew in F (both times due to op-ups), I noticed that I was the only P1 in the cabin and no more than 2 other WPs. I ssupect that most of the WP1s would be travelling in J, but a lot. My hypothesis (based on a very small sample, I accept) is that F travellers would typically travel less often and not really care about status (if they're already travelling in F...).

No doubt there will be exceptions.

 

[simongr]

Was in the Flounge in BKK couple of days back and there were about 15 people in there for the QF2 departure, let's say about 4 or 5 were actually flying first that would make about 10 WP's (or OW equivalent or guests of the first pax or guests of another WP) on a pretty full 747 flight.

I expect there to be a lot more than that on the flight - might have been shopping or in the J lounge if flying J - not all WPs know that they get F lounge acess...

Interestingly, the past couple of times I flew in F (both times due to op-ups), I noticed that I was the only P1 in the cabin and no more than 2 other WPs. I ssupect that most of the WP1s would be travelling in J, but a lot. My hypothesis (based on a very small sample, I accept) is that F travellers would typically travel less often and not really care about status (if they're already travelling in F...).

I think you can add to that a number of F pax don't even bother with FF programs - if you're flying F then you get all the benefits of status and more...

 

[Oneworldplus2]

I think you can add to that a number of F pax don't even bother with FF programs - if you're flying F then you get all the benefits of status and more...

a la US Dividend Miles....
If l can fly Sydney to Europe return, in F, for $3k and not get miles/status, l'm not going to shed a tear...

 

[exRAAF]

P1 ~3000
WP ~60,000
I seem to recall reading that QFF have 7million members, is that correct?

 

[exRAAF]

Meant to write how many do you think SG has?

 

[samh004]

There was a slide a few years ago in a presentation that had the numbers. Someone can probably find it.

 

[Kefci2000]

I think for some people WP is ridiculously easy - 3 returns to LHR in J gets you WP - that is not frequent flying but it is a lot of cash in the bank for QF.

I will almost re-qualify on my DONE4 mid March which will net me 1160 SC

 

[patrickk]

Some numbers have been thrown around.

WP1 - 3,000
WP - 60,000

It is difficult to estimate and also difficult to assess whether there are "too many" WPs. Given that you are a WP1 - this means you are travelling on premium routes (unless you are one of the 2 or 3 poor suckers earning P1 on DOM whY flights). On those premium routes you are more likely to see WPs. However take a look at the priority boarding queues in SYD in the morning and you will see very few people in the WP/J lane which to me means that there aren't that many on the flights.

Also looking at seating - I am generally able to get third row of economy at booking which is the row reserved for WP - so there can't be that many more WP on the flight who have grabbed the seats already.

I think for some people WP is ridiculously easy - 3 returns to LHR in J gets you WP - that is not frequent flying but it is a lot of cash in the bank for QF.

There was a time (3-4 years back) when I was greeted as a Gold member on international flights and asked if everything was okay; but not anymore that is for the Platinum folk who even slum it in cattle class.

 

[JohnM]

On the LTG issue, I’d imagine most LTG are currently a higher level within QFF or AAnother program, and those that aren’t are probably seniors and not expected to be a burden to the system, and will eventually not be a part of the system. So keeping the goal at 14,000 SC is still worthwhile.

"Eventually not be a part of the system". Do you mean dead :?::shock::!:. Just for that, I intend to stick around :evil:. May I shuffle and stumble very slowly in front of you boarding one day :mrgreen:.

 

[chrispy3276]

P1 ~3000
WP ~60,000
I seem to recall reading that QFF have 7million members, is that correct?

Pretty sure in their last market update they've now passed 8 mil members

 

[whatmeworry]

Qantas probably doesn't mind what their current member levels as QFF is one of their most profitable divisions.