QF557 BNE-SYD cancelled - chaos!

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Flew tonight QF975 TSV-BNE with 60 min connection to QF557 (scheduled 7:15). Various delays were posted (due weather in SYD) and the flight was cancelled around 8:15 PM. Staff in the Business Lounge rebooked me for tomorrow morning and said that accommodation was being arranged and i should wait in the lounge untll called.

Soe time later, there was a general announcement that people needing accommodation should go to the Service Desk (outside the lounge). I wasn't sure if that applied to me ... went to the desk and was told, "Yes, please go out to the Service Desk". I went to the Service Desk and joined a queue that was already maybe 40 people long. Waited nearly 40 minutes in line, got to the person at the desk, who said, "Oh, you're already rebooked ... well, you don't need to see us here, you need to go straight to the people at the other end who are handling accommodation". I mildly protested, one of the senior staff said, "I'm sorry, we thouht everyone in the queue needed rebooking", to which twenty or so people (all of whom had come from QP or Business Lounge) said, as one, "No ... we've already been rebooked!". Had we been told to go straight to the people organising accommodation, we could probably have been processed 15-20 minutes earlier. The staff were GREAT ... but there seems a communication problem.

I had opted for the 6:00 AM BNE-SYD flight (having decided that the 5:00 AM flight was too early). However, once we were on the bus to be taken to our accommodation, we were told that everyone on the first three or four flights HAD to be on the 3:30 AM bus. I'm checked in; I have carry-on only; I DON'T need to be at the airport two hours before my flight!

We arrived at the designated hotel (in Brisbane city) after 9:45 PM. Qantas has generously given us each a $50 food and drink allowance ... only problem is the hotel restaurant was already closed and the bar (where you could buy food) closes at 10:00 (but has agreed to stay open until 10:15!).

These things happen, I know. Qantas BNE staff were GREAT ... however, they did not seem as well prepared for this as they might have been.

When this has happened to me in the US (with UA) Business Class and Gold/Platinum FFs had better service (and usually a better standard hotel). As i said, QF BNE staff were great. However, being WP and flying Business made absolutely no difference to the whole experience.
 
Interesting that it was cancelled. The storms had cleared well and truly by 7:30. I guess the outbound plane from Sydney was delayed, but I'd have thought a recovery might have been possible.
 
Inbound SYD-BNE flight arrived BNE around 7:45 PM (8:45 SYD time). They said that, with aircraft turn-around. they could not be sure of getting to SYD before curfew!
 
Inbound SYD-BNE flight arrived BNE around 7:45 PM (8:45 SYD time). They said that, with aircraft turn-around. they could not be sure of getting to SYD before curfew!

Hmm yes. Would have been tight. Not impossible, but tight.
 
Flew tonight QF975 TSV-BNE with 60 min connection to QF557 (scheduled 7:15). Various delays were posted (due weather in SYD) and the flight was cancelled around 8:15 PM. Staff in the Business Lounge rebooked me for tomorrow morning and said that accommodation was being arranged and i should wait in the lounge untll called.

Soe time later, there was a general announcement that people needing accommodation should go to the Service Desk (outside the lounge). I wasn't sure if that applied to me ... went to the desk and was told, "Yes, please go out to the Service Desk". I went to the Service Desk and joined a queue that was already maybe 40 people long. Waited nearly 40 minutes in line, got to the person at the desk, who said, "Oh, you're already rebooked ... well, you don't need to see us here, you need to go straight to the people at the other end who are handling accommodation". I mildly protested, one of the senior staff said, "I'm sorry, we thouht everyone in the queue needed rebooking", to which twenty or so people (all of whom had come from QP or Business Lounge) said, as one, "No ... we've already been rebooked!". Had we been told to go straight to the people organising accommodation, we could probably have been processed 15-20 minutes earlier. The staff were GREAT ... but there seems a communication problem.

I had opted for the 6:00 AM BNE-SYD flight (having decided that the 5:00 AM flight was too early). However, once we were on the bus to be taken to our accommodation, we were told that everyone on the first three or four flights HAD to be on the 3:30 AM bus. I'm checked in; I have carry-on only; I DON'T need to be at the airport two hours before my flight!

We arrived at the designated hotel (in Brisbane city) after 9:45 PM. Qantas has generously given us each a $50 food and drink allowance ... only problem is the hotel restaurant was already closed and the bar (where you could buy food) closes at 10:00 (but has agreed to stay open until 10:15!).

These things happen, I know. Qantas BNE staff were GREAT ... however, they did not seem as well prepared for this as they might have been.

When this has happened to me in the US (with UA) Business Class and Gold/Platinum FFs had better service (and usually a better standard hotel). As i said, QF BNE staff were great. However, being WP and flying Business made absolutely no difference to the whole experience.


No different to most delays I have had on any airline (QF/CX/BA/SQ/AA etc). Organise your own accommodation and/or transport if you do not like the conditions offered.
 
Sorry to hear. Qantas are generally good with service recovery.

One of the reasons I stopped flying on the last BNE-SYD flight on a Friday night. Too many delays. Too many close calls.
 
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Interesting that it was cancelled. The storms had cleared well and truly by 7:30. I guess the outbound plane from Sydney was delayed, but I'd have thought a recovery might have been possible.

We landed in Sydney at 7.20 after having been in a holding pattern for 20 mins. Then sat on the tarmac for an hour waiting for a gate. Pilot described Sydney airport as pandemonium. I can understand cancelling some flights.
 
No different to most delays I have had on any airline (QF/CX/BA/SQ/AA etc). Organise your own accommodation and/or transport if you do not like the conditions offered.

That's all very well - but if you read the post you quoted, you'll see that the issue for the OP was that the 'conditions offered' took a long time to show themselves and a significant one, only after arriving at the offered hotel at 9:45pm!
 
When this has happened to me in the US (with UA) Business Class and Gold/Platinum FFs had better service (and usually a better standard hotel). As i said, QF BNE staff were great. However, being WP and flying Business made absolutely no difference to the whole experience.

When I've had disruptions on QF557 when in Business I've been given a nice room at Pullman, enough credit for room service dinner and breakfast, and two Cabcharge vouchers. I've never been offered a bus, but if I had I'd be jumping in a car anyway.

Having said that it's been a while. I avoid the last flights back to Sydney like the plague now.
 
There was also a large backlog at SYD to clear.. All airlines had aircraft waiting on the ground for gates.. At one stage around 15 from VA and QF were waiting for gates.. If there is lightning in the area within 10 nautical miles then staff are off the ramp.
 
CX - Flying in J got a better hotel than Y and a food drink allowance that was hard to spend, only disappointment was all passengers had to queue together, no preference for J or F customers. J hotel was at the airport and Y was 15 bus ride away.

QF - Flying in Y delayed in Perth and missed last connecting flight, put up overnight in a hotel 30 minutes away from the airport, only food option was room service and this took 2 hours due to the volume of QF customers, 3 hours of sleep and then back to the airport. To top it off bag was left in Perth, thanks to QF for providing a T-shirt and shorts for a 10 year old and a toothbush
 
These things happen, I know. Qantas BNE staff were GREAT ... however, they did not seem as well prepared for this as they might have been.

When this has happened to me in the US (with UA) Business Class and Gold/Platinum FFs had better service (and usually a better standard hotel). As i said, QF BNE staff were great. However, being WP and flying Business made absolutely no difference to the whole experience.

Interesting comment about things being handled better in the USA. I had a terrible run of delays and cancellations in the USA earlier in the year which were handled rather abysmally by AA. In fact, my worst ever experience with delays was with AA when flying paid F. By comparison, my QF flight back to Australia at the end of my last USA trip was delayed too (by 13 hours) but I honestly couldn't fault the QF staff. We were all kept informed and put in hotels etc. with minimum hassle and the delay was handled much better. YMMV.
 
That's all very well - but if you read the post you quoted, you'll see that the issue for the OP was that the 'conditions offered' took a long time to show themselves and a significant one, only after arriving at the offered hotel at 9:45pm!

I read the flight was cancelled at 8:15 and in hotel in the city at 9:45, which is 1.5 hours later. Whilst the miss-communication about what queue to join would have been annoying, I don't think being in the hotel 1.5 hours later is too bad actually. Sounds like they handled the situation well.
 
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