QF32 388 - emergency landing in SIN after Engine failure

[djfuzz]

Are you kidding me, its way too early, give it months if not years before the issue is completely investigated.

Kinda my point - bit harsh to be going the guy (attention cough though he may be) when we don't know that he's wrong. :-|

 

[TheInsider]

A memer on PPRUNE is stating that there might already've been an engine issue a few days earlier:

My mail says Eng#2 on that A/C has been carrying a Cat A Turbine Overspeed MEL since Tuesday.

 

[el_rooto]

What is a cat a turbine overspeed?

 

[NM]

Putting aside the credibility of the source, do we know yet whether it's a manufacturing or maintenance issue? Or is it too premature to dismiss any causation links so far?

Way to premature for anyone to know. But that won't stop the speculation.

 

[TheInsider]

What is a cat a turbine overspeed?

No idea, just copy/paste what was written.. Hmm maybe google will help..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overspeed_(engine)

 

[NM]

Re: QF 32 A380 out of action - who is inconvenienced?

AF and EK use Engine Alliance, but SQ and LH use RR. I’m not sure if it’s the exact same model though, but I do think they’ll be interested in the outcome of the investigation.

SQ use Trent 970 engines (per their A380-841 model) and QF use Trent 972 engines (per their A380-842 model). I believe the differences are minor and mostly around thrust rating.

 

[NM]

Re: QF 32 A380 out of action - who is inconvenienced?

All SQ operated A380 flights have been delayed for checks:

I wonder what they are actually checking for?

 

[samh004]

Re: QF 32 A380 out of action - who is inconvenienced?

I wonder what they are actually checking for?

Exactly, as they don’t even know the cause yet… or do they?

 

[JohnK]

Re: QF 32 A380 out of action - who is inconvenienced?

I wonder what they are actually checking for?

Exactly, as they don’t even know the cause yet… or do they?

The early rumours mention the probable cause as electrical issues.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Speculation clearly focuses on the engine, I believe these engines are maintained by RR. Anymore understanding on the extent of wing damage and why engine no 1 received the attention it did upon return to SIN by firies, couldn't be shut down?

Someone will no doubt confirm this.

 

[Sprucegoose]

I’d imagine LH will also do similarly.

Has this been confirmed? SQ have a few of these birds in service.

 

[cove]

Well handled by the folks in seat numbered 00 I would say!

 

[Egg]

Hey ... Guess What! Steve "Pinhead" Purvinas has commented:
Qantas engineers want full probe - Yahoo!7


Yep. I'm sure there is a correlation...

But are you sure there's not?

Whether or not outsourcing had anything to do with this incident, I confess I agree with his sentiment. I happen to believe that Qantas does rate safety very highly, which is why I'd prefer it if Qantas maintained their planes in Australia under their watchful eye.

I do note however that it's been reported that Rolls Royce maintains the engines as they built them, which seems logical to me.

 

[Mal]

I happen to believe that Qantas does rate safety very highly, which is why I'd prefer it if Qantas maintained their planes in Australia under their watchful eye.

But is an Australian LAME any better than a German LAME? Or Hong Kong based LAME? Do Cathay planes drop out of the sky on a frequent basis ? How about Lufthansa? And I believe any overseas maintenance must be signed off by an Australian LAME ... so there's that watchful Australian eye.

My problem with him and his association is that they always straight away come out and whinge that overseas maintenance is the cause of the world's issues. Umm no it isn't. It's just a dinosaur organisation that wants to flex their muscle against Qantas and protect their own cosy little bed.

 

[gumpy]

I must say this has made me a but apprehensive about the DONE4 that's starting for me tomorrow... =/

Luckily no A380's on the list but yeah... These RR engines are everywhere...

 

[serfty]

The implication is that Qantas saving money by having maintenance done overseas.

Not mentioned is this is unlikely to be the case when payment is in €'s.

So in this case Qantas are obviously putting safety before cost.

 

[straitman]

What is a cat a turbine overspeed?

A Cat A overspeed (in this context) would be one that the aircraft is allowed to continue operating subject to a set of particular inspection criteria in accordance with the MEL.

 

[straitman]

But are you sure there's not?

Whether or not outsourcing had anything to do with this incident, I confess I agree with his sentiment. I happen to believe that Qantas does rate safety very highly, which is why I'd prefer it if Qantas maintained their planes in Australia under their watchful eye.

I do note however that it's been reported that Rolls Royce maintains the engines as they built them, which seems logical to me.

As I posted earlier on the thread it is important to maintain perspective on this and remind the doom merchants that these aircraft are relatively new and are built overseas. Maybe those who build them actually have some idea of what they are doing.

Airbus notes that the aircraft (MSN14), which was delivered to Qantas on Sept. 19, 2008, had logged 8,165 flight hours and 831 flight cycles.

 

[MatF]

More speculation:

"Qantas A380 landing: Airlines were warned in August over engine safety"

Qantas A380 landing: Airlines were warned in August over engine safety | Business | The Guardian

 

[simongr]

Hey ... Guess What! Steve "Pinhead" Purvinas has commented:
Qantas engineers want full probe - Yahoo!7


Yep. I'm sure there is a correlation...

Correlation does not imply causation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia